Prince Andrew to face civil sex assault case after US ruling

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Chippy_Tea

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I quite like Rhod Gilbert too

I was joking i hated Max Boyce my father in law was a big fan and used to play his LP's constantly when i was visiting i am sure he disliked me and was trying to persuade me not to visit. :laugh8:


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Trying be be impartial, so no judging or jumping to the wrong conclusion.
Due to absense of the full details of the actual events, ( which we probably will never know)
it is very hard to make out this entire allegation.

Was it factual that Virginia Roberts was "Forced" by Jeffrey Epstein to have sex with or rather, raped by the prince. If so, she was accusing prince Andrew of a very serious criminal offence, as a Rapist.
(It is fair to clarify that forced a sexual act without mutual consent is rape)
What were the sequence of events leading to all the rapes.
Was she drugged ?

Did she accept money but was tricked into being raped instead of just providing massage service ?

Was she raped, not once, not twice, but 3 times? If so, after the first rape, why did she return.
or was she somehow coerced, and had no choice. Was 17 a consensual age at the time ?

Having briefly seen Prince Andrew's interview. He said he had no recollection of ever having met Virginia Roberts. or categorically not remember so. How would forgetfulness be proved? Lets say that, it may be possible , as he has met thousands and thousands of people, .. or possibly even slept with a fair number over the years ( well people in high , or any, places do sleep around ). So yes it would be a tall order to remember names and faces after meeting so many. Unless one has photographic memory. Or it was someone very special
 

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Welcome to the forum mike29a
Do you home brew or did you join just to post in this thread i ask as most new members ask a question about home brew first.
 

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The royals are actually Stuarts, but through the female line, so lost the name and switched as you say.


Not at all. The Establishment [ great nobles, politicians and merchants of wealth ] wanted a 'Crowned Republic' with a figurehead monarch to placate the common people, whilst the Oligarchy ruled though an elected parliament. c.f. Poland, Venice etc..

So they invited an invader and kicked out the Stuarts in 1688; the Houses of Orange/Oldenburg --- the betraying relatives --- ruled a few years, then they had to find a distant relative base enough to form a fake dynasty on their behalf. around 60 to a 100 people refused until they found someone to agree: his surname was Wettin / Guelph: a first cousin once removed son of Sophia.

A century ago it was worked out Kaiser Wilhelm had more Stuart Blood than Edward VII --- which is cute because Charles I had more Hohenzollern ancestry than Scottish...
 

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Note to above: no, I joined for the beer-mystery [ not even the beer alas ] came across this after joining.
 

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Not at all. The Establishment [ great nobles, politicians and merchants of wealth ] wanted a 'Crowned Republic' with a figurehead monarch to placate the common people, whilst the Oligarchy ruled though an elected parliament. c.f. Poland, Venice etc..

So they invited an invader and kicked out the Stuarts in 1688; the Houses of Orange/Oldenburg --- the betraying relatives --- ruled a few years, then they had to find a distant relative base enough to form a fake dynasty on their behalf. around 60 to a 100 people refused until they found someone to agree: his surname was Wettin / Guelph: a first cousin once removed son of Sophia.

A century ago it was worked out Kaiser Wilhelm had more Stuart Blood than Edward VII --- which is cute because Charles I had more Hohenzollern ancestry than Scottish...


 

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