Should the school day start later.

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  1. Feb 12, 2019 at 4:30 PM #21

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  2. Feb 12, 2019 at 4:35 PM #22

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    You had a shoe box we would have loved a shoe box.

    I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed drink a cup of sulphuric acid for breakfast and work twenty-nine hours a day downt mill and payt mill owner for permission to come to work and when i got home my Dad and Mam would kill me and dance about on my grave singing Hallelujah.

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    No it's not that bad!
     
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  4. Feb 13, 2019 at 2:41 PM #24

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    If you move the school start time to a later hour, the kids will just stay awake longer into the night. Someone mentioned getting the kids to bed on time. That would seem to be the first step.
    Do all the teenagers over there load up on "Energy" drinks and start the kids on coffee early on? They are entirely unnecessary (or should be) if eating correctly and getting correct amount of sleep. Yet, they get pushed hard here.
    I had a paper route also before school. It would have benefited me to go to bed at 8pm instead of 9 or 10.
    If there are any holes in the following idea, I don't know what they are. Feed the kid properly and also find out, as a parent/guardian, how long it takes for the kid to wake up on their own--without them rolling over and going back to sleep because they can--and that should give an accurate number and what time lights-out should be.
    I drank coffee for about 3 years as an adult. Once I stopped, sleep went back to normal. I wake up after 7 3/4 hours pretty much but will sleep an extra 45 if I've had a big, physical day.
     
  5. Feb 13, 2019 at 4:48 PM #25

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    I wouldn't say they all do but these drinks are very popular over here and not just drunk by teens.


    Mintel consumer usage data starts at the age of 16, so, officially, the biggest UK market for energy drinks is boys aged 16-24, with 63% indulging (as opposed to 58% of girls). But, according to European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) research, two-thirds of 10-16-year-olds regularly consume energy drinks, along with 18% of three-to 10-years-olds. In 2017, public health researchers from the Centre for Translational Research in Public Health asked secondary-school children in north-east England about their consumption of energy drinks. “Sometimes, it’s sleepover day,” said a boy in the 10-11-year-old age group. “So you go to the shop, get energy drinks and you go in your house and you just play on your Xbox.”

    Read in full - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-about-energy-drinks-but-how-harmful-are-they
     
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  6. Feb 13, 2019 at 9:14 PM #26

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    As @Chippy_Tea pointed out there is a bit of a hiatus in the UK at the moment with regard to youngsters drinking "Energy Drinks", but it is mainly being driven by the companies that sell the stuff as the parents are unaware of the dangers!

    With regard to the consumption of coffee, especially for children, it seems to be an American "thing" because over here and in continental Europe, children are introduced to tea, coffee and even wine at a very early age. In many continental countries, the coffee is "espresso" and almost nowhere is anyone expected to pay more than €1.20 (£1.05 / $1.4) a cup.

    In a recent episode of the US TV programme "Young Sheldon" his older brother (a teenager) was stopped from drinking coffee by his mother. An amazing thing for me to see because at that age most kids here drink coffee or tea (which actually has a higher caffein content than coffee) as part of a family breakfast at least.

    In my own childhood my Grandmother kept an enamel tea-pot simmering on the fire all the time with a kettle full of water alongside. The tea was a tar like substance which, for women and children, was diluted with water from the kettle.

    Whenever the "tea" started to go pale Gran would add another spoonful of tea-leaves and only at the end of the day was it allowed to be drained. At that time the tea-leaves were removed and stored so that they could be sprinkled on the carpet to act as a cleaning agent before it was taken outside to be beaten. Every day, a fresh pot of tea was started on the fire with a minimum of boiling water and a maximum of tea-leaves! For the tea to be worth drinking the phrase "You could nearly stand a spoon up in it." was almost a truthful description!

    Even before I had arthritis, I very seldom slept more than six hours in any twenty-four hour period; and as a general rule, no matter what time I go to bed, I get up no later than 9am!

    If I sleep for more than four hours at a time, my joints start to seize up with arthritis so, in my opinion, the joys of old age are very much over-rated!
     
  7. Feb 14, 2019 at 1:21 AM #27

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    @Dutto Excellent story. I love the part about the stages of the tea leaf. I completely forgot about the popularity of tea in the UK. My mother was milk no sugar. I make cold-brewed tea by the gallon (no caffeine) with nothing added or I drink water. It's the only way to stay away from all the sugar drinks on the shelves. Beer is for the weekend.
    My grandparents are from Scotland, Germany and Hungary so I am influenced a bit from that, mostly in the food I'm familiar with. I'm a first-generation American (parents from Canada).
    With the coffee here, many of the teens are doing it strictly for its caffeine effect and to replace sleep, basically, and so it's not the pleasant, familial custom you described.
    My wife can drink strong coffee (Moka pot) before bed with no effect but I always thought that was unusual. I would be wired for a good four hours if I attempted it.
    Cheers.
     
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