Last one I made was a cider made from store bought apple juice. I used 17,5 liters, 500 g of sugar and topped of to 25 liters. I fermented it with a cider yeast with sweetener i found on Ebay, came out at about 7%. My girl loved it. The cider tasted semi sweet with a lot of apple. Next time ill be adding 3-4 liters of grapejuice to the mix. Should be good. It was very drinkable after about 3 weeks in the bottle.