The old ways

Discussion in 'Wine & Cider Discussions' started by jojorose, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Nov 30, 2017 #1

    jojorose

    jojorose

    jojorose

    Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    NULL
    Hi all

    I have this year started brewing again wine and beer after a thirty year break.
    Previously we did not make wine from carton juices, nor did we use any fancy gadgets. Everything was matured for a year or more.

    So ive made a lot of wine this year. I have obviously forgotton a lot of what i used to know but do i really need to take abv readings? I just used to leave until no action on the old air bubbly thing and then rack and leave for a long long time.

    I see now that some people are using finings, should i be doing this?
    I also see that wine is being drunk a lot earlier than i was used to?
    Bottling.... in a box i recently purchased from an ex winemaker there were some very strange bottle tops white plastic with a tiny red (lets call it chimney) on top. Am i supposed to use these instead of corks?
    As for corking, is it ok to reuse screw top wine bottles?

    Im sure some of you will groan when you read this and i apologise in advance but nevertheless i still would like to know if everyone treats the process of wine making as a serious chemistry activity or whether some of you just do it a more casual way?
     
  2. Nov 30, 2017 #2

    Chippy_Tea

    Chippy_Tea

    Chippy_Tea

    Administrator. Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2013
    Messages:
    20,374
    Likes Received:
    3,926
    Location:
    South Cumbria.
    I would love to make proper wine but i do not have the room to ferment and store it for 12 months while it clears and matures.

    It depends if you have time to leave it to do it naturally finings will clear a wine in 48 hours so i guess its down to how soon you want it to be clear.

    With kits and especially supermarket juice wines ageing doesn't really improve it so people drink it within weeks of it being bottled.

    I do not know what these are i use Novotwist screw caps which can be used many times over. (there is a thread about them on the forum)

    Some members say they are much thinner walled so you risk breaking them as above i use novotwist caps, read more here - http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=56326

    .
     
    jojorose and Taff like this.
  3. Nov 30, 2017 #3

    jojorose

    jojorose

    jojorose

    Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    NULL
    Are the novotwist tops one use only?
     
  4. Nov 30, 2017 #4

    alvin

    alvin

    alvin

    Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2013
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    5
    Location:
    Isle of Man
    Hello Jo, I think many of us are casual about our home winemaking. I never use a hydrometer (I estimate sugar levels according to typical fruit sugar content), never use finings (the wine clears naturally), bottle in 2 litre pets (empty plastic water bottles from the supermarket), and bottle in screw top glass bottles (recovered from a recycling bin) when I want to impress.

    Also, I have found that 'clean' equipment is important but that it is not necessary to sterilize anything if you 'hit' the must soon with a big active yeast starter solution.

    Unless a person has obsessive-compulsive tendencies looking for an outlet, excellent wine can be made with minimal fuss.
     
    Gunge and GerritT like this.
  5. Dec 1, 2017 #5

    Chippy_Tea

    Chippy_Tea

    Chippy_Tea

    Administrator. Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2013
    Messages:
    20,374
    Likes Received:
    3,926
    Location:
    South Cumbria.

    No, I have been using mine regularly since 2015 and they are still airtight.

    .
     
  6. Dec 3, 2017 #6

    Aqualung

    Aqualung

    Aqualung

    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    I started making wine last year after a break of 20 years. I find a recipe on google that I like the look of and go with that. I have a hydrometer but really cant be bothered using it. I ferment until the bubbles are over a minute apart, rack and clear.
    Yes I have made some mistakes but have only thrown a crappy cider away.
    Everything else has been good, better or saved by blending.

    I look at it this way. 100 or more years ago people made and stored their wine in earthenware demijohns, and it worked.
     
    GerritT and alvin like this.
  7. Dec 4, 2017 #7

    jojorose

    jojorose

    jojorose

    Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2017
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    NULL
    Aqualung : Thats what I thought. And Campden tablets. Some recipes seem to be bunging them in willy nilly. What are your views on this?
     
  8. Dec 7, 2017 #8

    Aqualung

    Aqualung

    Aqualung

    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    4
    I use one campden tablet per gallon to make sure the fermentation has finished if I want it to clear quickly. Otherwise I put it in the garage on the cold concrete floor and leave it.
     

Share This Page