The White Grape Juice shortage thread .

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  1. Feb 23, 2017 #101

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    Yes I recently got 8 lires of WGJ on amazon for £24.21. Link here https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B013O6AV2I/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

    I made 2 gallons of wine out of it. It has a lovely colour to it and cleared up nicely I also just recently ordered RGJ by stute also from amazon link here https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00V6I57YE/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
     
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    Did you use it all in two wines?
     
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    Yes Chippy. I made a gallon 1st to see how it would turn out then made another gallon which has about 2 days left to ferment. I dont drink myself but had a small taste and its a lovely flavor. There was hardly any foaming during fermentation which was super. The red grape juice has been dispatched today so i should have it tomorrow all being well.
     
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    Thanks chippy. It was just over 3 and a half litres in each DJ after i added the sugar boiled in water. I must add apple in the next batch. Thanks for the link.
     
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    Hi folks, I have been getting Stute WGJ delivered in bulk but the price has gone up a lot so I'm looking at alternatives. I will try RGJ to make rose but I do like easy white wine so to make that can I just substitute Wilko WGJ concentrate for actual WGJ? Any extras required or can I just do a direct swap, ie concentrate instead of WGJ?

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    This is a post from an old thread -


    White grape juice became scarce a couple of years ago due to a failed crop and it is still not available in many supermarkets and can be expensive if you can find it, this was posted by tonyhibbett in 2013 (he still occasionally posts so may be able to update the thread) so if you must have white grape juice (red grape juice is readily available at most supermarkets) you can make your own.

    Frustrated by the lack of clear information about the amounts of glucose and sucrose added to grape juice concentrate in wine kits, I have decided to try using purely sultanas and water.Raisins are not so good as they are somewhat caramelised, which is why they are darker.
    Both are mostly produced from Thompson seedless grapes, which closely resemble chardonnay in flavour. These grapes are used in the US to make so-called chablis and it was palmed off to Australian wine producers as chardonnay juice and no one realised until the supplier got found out!
    I can get 2 kilos of sultanas for £5. This is the equivalent of 8 kg of fresh grapes. They contain 70% sugar, by weight. By adding 6 litres of water, you get about 8 litres of must, including 2 kg of pulp, 70% of which will convert to alcohol and co2, on a roughly equal basis, leaving 600 ml of solids to be removed and about 700 ml of alcohol, leaving about 6.7 litres, with up to 20% sediment, about 1.3 litres. After racking, this leaves about 5.4 litres of must. After a second racking and fining, there should be enough for 6 bottles of wine made without added sugar. I have yet to try it, but compare this to the Wilco 30 bottle kit, in which the equivalent grape content is a mere 10%. More than half the can is glucose syrup and sugar, to which you add even more sugar. I tried one, and even though the sg went down to 0994, because of the excessive amount of glucose syrup, it tasted sweet.
    The only pure grape juice kit they sell is £2.75 for 220 grams. To make a gallon of wine with it without sugar would cost about £24. They no longer sell Youngs Definitive white grape juice compound for medium white. It's called compound, (not concentrate) because it contains an unspecified amount of glucose syrup, and it's called medium because that glucose syrup contains unfermentable sugars which prevent you making a dry wine. A small amount, say 10%, would have little effect in this respect, which implies the inclusion of significantly more than that. I can still get it from my LHBS/chemist, but at £8.50 per 900 gram can, I won't be buying any more.
     
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    Thank you. I will check the next time I'm in wilko but does anyone know offhand how much wilko concentrate equals 1 litre of stute WGJ?
     
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    I have edited my above post - (expensive as you need to use the full bottle in a 4.5 litre demijohn)
     
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    Its back clapaclapaclapa

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    Depending on how much concentrated juice you have to add to make it up a litre it can work out an expensive way to make wine as mentioned in my earlier post below -





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    I inquired about the homebrew shop stuff. Its designed to enhance the wine. He told me one sachet does 1 gallon of wine. So for example if you are making a gallon of parsnip wine you would add the sachet to it.
     
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    Do you mean one bottle of concentrate to a gallon (i have never heard of sachets of concentrate)
     
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    How much DO you have to add? I've seen people say the whole bottle, others say the bottle dilutes to nearly 2l so only use ½
     
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    The wilko version is a 220g and i believe you add the whole bottle.
     
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