Vienna Saaz SMaSH

[HarryFlatters]

Mornin' all...

I'm planning to brew a Vienna Saaz SMaSH as my next brew but I want to run a few things past you...

Bitterness - as Saaz is a Czech hop, I'm planning to bitter as I would for a Bohemian lager, so 35ish IBUs. However, I might bring that down because the FG is coming out as lower than the style, so might give the impression of a more bitter, dryer beer?

Yeast - Bohemian lager or S-05 ale yeast?

Am I thinking about it too much?

Any advice welcome.

 

[MickDundee]

Yeast wise, if you are able to use proper temperature control and have had a good read up on the best ways to ferment a lager then go for the lager yeast (I’ve never done a lager but IIRC you might need 2 packs of dried yeast).

Otherwise go for a clean neutral yeast. I have a pseudo lager (a Propino / Herbrucker SMaSH) on the go at the moment with Mangrove Jacks M54 which is a steam beer yeast.

 

[HarryFlatters]

Hi Mick,

I don't have temperature control per se, however I do have a garage and I live near Edinburgh, so it's been <10°C since before Christmas.

I have a rarely used fridge in the garage which I intend to use for lagering as it's very cold indeed.

I currently have a Marzen type beer fermenting in the garage, so I might use a lager yeast and then properly lager it after.

 

[BeerCat]

I have done a vienna saaz SMASH and it was rather nice. Get some MJ bohemian yeast, at least 2 packs.

 

[Ghillie]

You can make a good lager with just one packet of yeast and sound temp control. I haven't noticed a difference with one pack vs two.

 

[HarryFlatters]

Sounds grand, lads. Thanks :)

I'll try one packet of bohemian lager yeast, but I'll maybe re-hydrate it in advance.

 

[Benfleet Brewery]

Yeast wise, if you are able to use proper temperature control and have had a good read up on the best ways to ferment a lager then go for the lager yeast (I’ve never done a lager but IIRC you might need 2 packs of dried yeast).

Otherwise go for a clean neutral yeast. I have a pseudo lager (a Propino / Herbrucker SMaSH) on the go at the moment with Mangrove Jacks M54 which is a steam beer yeast.

Hi

Just wondering how this turned out using the M54?

 

[MickDundee]

Hi

Just wondering how this turned out using the M54?

Unfortunately it oxidised quite badly (naivety with my first brew in the Fermentasaurus) so was never drinkable, which was a bigger because I’d bottled some with special labels for my mate’s stag do.

I have used that yeast for California Commons a few times though and it’s a good yeast.

 

[Benfleet Brewery]

Unfortunately it oxidised quite badly (naivety with my first brew in the Fermentasaurus) so was never drinkable, which was a bigger because I’d bottled some with special labels for my mate’s stag do.

I have used that yeast for California Commons a few times though and it’s a good yeast.

Ok, thanks

I'm looking to make a lager for the first time and can't be faffed with all the low temp control and waiting so was hoping to cheat a bit and use the M54