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  1. Jul 6, 2016 #1

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    Lets all feel sorry for me type of post.
    Havent been feeling very well for some time now. Had enough and went to see a doctor. Test taken and my sugar level is very high, too high. Went through all the things Ive eaten and drank in the last 24hrs, including the 4pts I had last night. He was very concerned about the 4pts I had. I told him about the sugar content of beer FG 1.010 and he said "Do you realize that that equates to 10g of sugar per litre, or 5g (teaspoon per pint) and you drank 4, thats 20g of sugar.
    Conclusion....no more beer for me Im afraid.
    On a good note he did say that you can drink 4pts of beer as long as you drink 4pts of water. Your wee should be white and clear, if its yellow, your not drinking enough water.
     
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    It's only when you start brewing that you realise how much sugar is in beer. I'd just cut down on sugar intake elsewhere and allow yourself one or two. BG
     
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    20g isn't really a lot of sugar, it's about half a can of coke or a glass of orange juice.
    That being said...
    I think an sg of 1.010 is actually closer to 30g per litre so 2 pints would be just over 60g of sugar which is a lot.
    However...
    If you have a sensible diet and don't spend 18 hours a day on your ass surely you could get away with the odd pint or two.
     
  4. Jul 6, 2016 #4

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    You could brew drier beers to lower the sugar content. Mash long and high, with low specialty malts like crystal.
     
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    The reason why I brew my own low alcohol beer is so that I can murder at least two litres a day and A) Stay slim and seductive, and B) Stay upright! (I'm succeeding on one of them; honestly!) :whistle: :whistle:

    Being serious, back in 1972 I picked up a Urinary Tract Infection and have to drink at least five litres of liquid a day to keep my bladder flushed out. (If I don't, the bug goes to town and I am not a happy bunny!)

    Over the years various Specialists have all said that the recommended five litres of liquid a day could be "Water, coffee, tea, fruit-juice, beer etc it doesn't matter what it is as long as you keep your badder flushed out." I latched on to the word "beer" and the rest is history!

    Your doctor also agrees with the recommendations of the Specialists when it comes to the colour of your urine. Anything less than clear means that you aren't drinking enough. (With the exception being the classic example of fear that can be created after eating beetroot!) :whistle:

    With regard to the sugar content of beer I suggest that you check out the Brewers Friend ABV Calculator ...

    http://www.brewersfriend.com/abv-calculator/

    ... which gives "Calories per 12oz bottle" for each brew.

    It helps me keep an eye on what I guzzle as for example:

    ABV 6.56% (OG of 1.06 and FG of 1.01) comes in at just under 200 calories per 12oz bottle.

    on the other hand

    ABV 2.63% (OG of 1.03 and FG of 1.01) comes in at just under 100 calories per 12oz bottle.

    It is possible to brew a low calorie / low alcohol / low sugar beer that still tastes fine and keeps for a number of week. :thumb:

    As a famous supermarket keeps telling us "Every little helps!" ...

    ... and I hope this helps! :thumb: :thumb:
     
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    What is the ABV% o your low alcohol beers Dutto? How do you make them? I'm considering making a sub 3% beer and reading around the subject of making low alcohol beer the advice is to mash high and for about 30 mins to retain body.

    Aparently there's a tax break for commercial brewers for beers of 2.8% or lower but it's supposed to be hard to make a tasty beer that low so most commercial breweries dont bother
     
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    I don't have a specific target, but here's two very recent ones made from kits that came in under 4% by using less DME than recommended.

    WILCO'S HOPPY COPPER BITTER KIT
    Started 15th June 2016
    Only 600 grams of DME added
    King Keg 21st June 2016 with 90gm of brewing sugar.
    Started drinking 2nd July 2016
    OG 1.038
    FG 1.010
    ABV 3.7%
    I'm currently drinking this out of the KK. It tastes better every day!

    COOPERS LAGER KIT (HOPPED)
    Started 17th June 2016
    Only 500 grams of DME added
    Racked off to 2nd FV 22nd June
    Cold Hopped with 20gm Cascade Pellets 23rd June
    Bottled (blue caps) 2nd July 2016
    Bottled
    OG 1.037
    FG 1.013
    ABV 3.15%
    (Yet to be tasted as only bottled 4 days ago.)

    This is an AG brew that went down very well:

    FULSTOWS AG NORTHFIELD IPA
    Started 6th June 2016
    Yeast pitched at 24 degrees.
    Bottled/MK 12th June 2016
    OG 1.042
    FG 1.010
    ABV 4.5%

    I finished drinking this by the 1st July 2016 it was so tasty, but I think it would have retained most of its "drinkability" if I had increased the volume of water in the FV to drop the OG to somewhere around 1.033 and an ABV of 3.02%.

    Hope this helps. :thumb:

    PS The Wilco kit and the AG break all of my rules for "patience" because we are recently back from a three month stay in France and I ran out of beer! :doh: :doh:
     
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    I've started to make beer of 4% or less recently as I think I probably drink too much but I REALLY like my beers. So I figure if I lower the abv this will ofset things somewhat
     
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    Sorry to here that :cry:

    If you want to pull the sugar content of your brews down a bit, look into adding 'amylase enzymes' in a secondary.

    Came across it looking into low carb beers and ordered a couple of packs off fleabay (but not tried yet!)

    Best post I came across on the subject was on another forum (sorry Mods :-/) See here:

    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=123937

    Hope that's of use to you, good luck :thumb:
     
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    My diet is generally one of low sugar content. I do like a lot of fruit though. Would the sugar from the grain by similar to sugar from fruit I.e non refined or whatever they call it? So therefore not that bad for you
     
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    The fermentable sugar, regardless of where it comes from, gets converted to alcohol in the brewing process and then, after consumption, the body turns it back into sugar so that the body can use it. (Ignore the highlighted sentence. It doesn't. It only slightly increases blood sugar levels. Mea culpa!) :doh::doh:

    It is possible to live completely on beer! A schoolmate of mine was diagnosed with stomach cancer when he was in his late teens and was put on a GOD Prescription by his doctor. "GOD" standing for "Guinness On Demand".

    He was the happiest cancer sufferer you could ever hope to meet and he celebrated his 70th birthday with a few more of us before succumbing to his ailment two years ago.
     
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    The calories in beer come from alcohol not sugar the yeast ate all the sugar and our bodies burn alcohol off very fast but that leaves a void so we crave food and that contains sugar and fat so the weight gain is from food.
    How many of us are starving after a good swill
     
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    1 of your 5 a day.. I like it!!
     
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    and there in lies the problem for me,up until 20 years ago a beer and a fag was quite sufficient,didnt need to snack but since packing up the fags its been a conversion to nuts,crisps,scrathings,all bl00dy sugar filled and fattening
     
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    Do you mean long and low?
     
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    Thanks for that! :thumb: :thumb:

    Live and learn! I've always been told that it was converted back into sugar!

    However, doing a bit of research into the subject I discovered this gem:

    Cayenne pepper
    Cayenne pepper dilates the blood vessels and apparently leads to higher BACs
    and more exposure of the brain to alcohol. In short if you drink alcohol
    while ingesting a lot of cayenne pepper you will become much drunker than usual.
    Avoid red pepper vodka!

    And what do I have bubbling away on the worktop in the garage? Chilli Beer! :doh: :doh:

    Live and learn indeed! :thumb: :thumb:
     
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    No worries, for those that don't know HBT is owned by the same company that own THBF.
     
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    You could always try downing your daily pints while running on a treadmill.
     
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    That's not true, the bit about the calories coming from alcohol not carbohydrates. Otherwise the fg of beer would be below 1.000. I did a quick back of an envelope calculation and to get a specific gravity of 1.010 you need about 12.5 grammes of carbs per pint. Only a rough calculation as I didn't take into account the effect of the alcohol lowering the SG so the carb content is actually higher. Still not a lot but if you're swilling pint after pint it does add up.
    Much much less in dry wines and ciders though. So in Johnyboys situation I'd reduce my beer intake and increase my cider intake...
     
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