Inspired by early thread "those bloody Grainfather seals". I ask myself again, what is Grainfather for? Forgive me if I'm a bit old school, but back in the day the object was to make decent beer as cheaply as possible so we could get pissed as cheaply as possible (student days). Then one graduated to making excellent beer as cheaply as possible (or got married and had kids). Then we got a bit more discriminating and started spending more on the very best ingredients to make stunning beer as cheaply a possible. Anybody spotted the common factor yet? So when I look around me and see that everybody seems to have a Grainfather (of dubious reliability, it seems), when I check out the Grainfather website and watch a video which ends with a bunch of NZ kids swigging their homebrew directly from swingtop bottles, and when I go to Malt Miller and see that these things cost nearly £700 plus fermenters, plus sparge-water heaters plus glycol chillers etc, etc, I wonder if I'm missing something. Back in the day I saved up my dinner-money to eventually buy an Electrim Boiler, a supposedly all in one system. What a disappointment! I ended up just using it for heating sparge water. Can anyone enlighten me, then? Does it brew better beer? Should I be tempted to mothball my multiplicity of kettles, cooler boxes, stockpots, gas-burners and tea-urns so that I can swig my homebrew straight from the bottle?