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Old 08-01-2017, 02:50 PM   #1
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so im doing a this is lager ag clone but want to avoid using a lager yeast. i was thinking us-05. would this do or has anyone got a better sugestion

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I've looked into this A LOT as I dont have a brew fridge. I have a brew bag where I can get temps down to about 14C/15C

Which yeast you go for depends on what temps you can get down. If you can only get down to about 18C-20C use a steam beer yeast. MJ California Lager yeast is the only dried version but of course there are liquid versions. It's quite clean and crisp but I've read steam beer yeasts have a slight fruityness to them (I cant tell as my palate isn't refined enough)

If you can get down to 14C use Nottingham. I've read it's really clean at these temps and makes for a great pseudo lager. I'll be trying this with my next pseudo lager

You can actaully use lager yeast at ale temps but their not as clean at these temps. I've never tried it as I dont want to stink my flat out with sulpher compounds

Basically the lower you can get the temp the better as whatever yeast you use will be cleaner. Except strangely enough US-05 which I've read give off peachy esters when fermented cold
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why do you want to avoid using a lager yeast ???????????? Use a saf 23 lager yeast and leave it in the coldest place in your house
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thanks il look into the saf 23 lager and the nottingham. just trying to get the malt and hops from the same place to save on postage
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What hops are you going to use
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thanks il look into the saf 23 lager and the nottingham. just trying to get the malt and hops from the same place to save on postage
its actually saflager 23 a german bottom feeding yeast. An all round lager yeast, Nottingham yeast (wilko) (just used this along with the kit yeast on a Woodfords Wherry) is an ale yeast. one will make lager ,one will make lager beer with lager ingredients and ale yeast.
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going to get this ag kit http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/index...productId=2092
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I've just put the same kit through GEB's custom grain kit and it comes out at £7.16 (you just need to double check the AA% of the hops to make sure you dont need more for the GEB kit than you do for the MM kit
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i looked at GEB but thay didnt have 1 of the hops in the kit. il look again in the morning. thanks @MyQul
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Nottingham @ 14c is as close as you will get without using proper lager strains.

It *must* be kept at a solid 14c though ... and if you have the equipment to be able to do that, you might as well use a proper lager strain. Yes, it takes longer, but is much better.
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