camlock fittings help.

[welshguzzler]

Hi guys, right, on my vessels i have a short 15mm copper spout, looking into getting a pump up and running and using the silicone tubing, but here is where im stumped. Can anybody tell me what camlock parts i need to connect from the 15mm copper to the (i presume) 1/2" silicone tubing. Am i making sense here?? Im just confused with all the different parts :? :? :? .

 

[Vossy1]

You'd need a compression cam lock fitting to get onto 15mm tube and I've not seen them.
Do you have to use the copper tube?
There is a fitting you can use...hold on..I'll do a search :hmm:

 

[Springer]

I use a camlock female with hose tail.
Then a camlock male with 1/2 female thread, fit this to the pipe with a 1/2 inch compression x 1/2 male thread.
Think I got my biology right, :?
S
I went cheap skate as usual and bought ali, which I had gone stainless on this occasion, V would not even realise there was an option. :lol:

 

[Vossy1]

this was what I was thinking of. If you want to get onto a camlock fitting you'd need to convert the 15mm pipe into a 1/2" thread first.

 

[Vossy1]

I was going to suggest S's solution but with a 15mm compression end

EDIT, you'd need one of these

Beat me to it S :lol:

 

[welshguzzler]

I dont have to use the copper spout, theres a 15mm thread there for a pick up. The copper spout tightens up on an olive and a nut, which i can take off if its easier.

 

[Vossy1]

I dont have to use the copper spout, theres a 15mm thread there for a pick up.

That should be a 1/2" thread IITC, so you could just screw a 1/2" male camlock straight on..are you sure on the thread size :hmm:

 

[welshguzzler]

It says 15mm on the fitting. :thumb:

 

[Vossy1]

Is it a 15mm compression fitting w, ie, the 15mm tube goes into it and you screw the nut tight ?
If so it'll be a 1/2" thread...confusing...I know

 

[orlando]

My suggestion would be to speak to Calvin @ Intrico

http://www.intricoproducts.com/catalogu ... roove.html

I went through my requirements with him. He is really helpful and has helped a number of Home Brewers with these requirements.

 

[Springer]

Spot on V, 15mm compression not 1/2 :lol:
The think that confuses people is that 1/2 bsp refers to the pipe size, the outer thread diameter is 20 -21 mm .
S

 

[welshguzzler]

Yep vossy, thats the one, its a outside diameter of 21mm. :wha:

 

[welshguzzler]

Does this sound right, part d, female thread with female cam coupler
part e, hosetail with male cam adaptor? :thumb:

 

[Springer]

Does this sound right, part d, female thread with female cam coupler
part e, hosetail with male cam adaptor? :thumb:

That looks like it would work, but to me It's easier to operate, if the hose has the female camlock and the male camlock is fixed. Think about it.
But either way will work and you may want to vary options to stop the wrong connection being made.

Have a look here

If I had done it your way on the cooler there perhaps would be no room for the clips.

 

[Vossy1]

Agree with S, always easier with clips on hose IME

 

[welshguzzler]

Is that a part a and c then? :wha: :wha: . thanks for advice too chaps. :thumb:

 

[Springer]

Is that a part a and c then? :wha: :wha: . thanks for advice too chaps. :thumb:

"Thats the way to do it" :lol: with a, lets get it right this time, 15mm compression x 1/2 bsp thread fitting

The big question is material choice, I think I mentioned I got ali ones, which are fine, but on this occasion I wish I had gone stainless, but works out about twice the price, which for me would have been over £80 :)

I have heard people using cone seat unions, might be worth looking at, do a search, or try BES plumbing

 

[welshguzzler]

Ha Ha, got there in the end, i'll look into it now, only want to the pump to transfer the wort. Could i transfer from the HLT to the mash and then to the boiler with just the one pump. Am i right in thinking it'll just involve a bit of swapping hoses around. :hmm:

 

[Springer]

Ha Ha, got there in the end, i'll look into it now, only want to the pump to transfer the wort. Could i transfer from the HLT to the mash and then to the boiler with just the one pump. Am i right in thinking it'll just involve a bit of swapping hoses around. :hmm:

One pump is fine, I have the HLT up high so that I can gravity feed to the tun and also gravity sparge
Then I pump from the tun around the HERMS and back to the tun, when its time I put the out hose into the boiler.
After a quick change of hoses I pump from the boiler back to the boiler as a sanitiser and then through the sanitised cooler into the FV.
S

 

[welshguzzler]

I'll have to pump from my HLT to the mash because im using gas and the height of the HLT if i raise it up to gravity feed is a bit too high for my liking. This sounds like a stupid question to me but, say i need 20 litres for example from my HLT, using the pump, do i just turn the tap off at the desired mark, and will the pump suck the tube dry, or will i have to account for the water loss in the tube? :? :?