Citra and Nelson Sauvin IPA - hop advice?

[teadixon]

Hi,

I've got 85 grams each of Citra and Nelson Sauvin hops and wanted to make an IPA.

I just wondered about balancing these 2 hops, anyone ever used this combo? How does the below sound? (This is adapted from James Morton's Extra IPA in his book, Brew - he likes to pack in the hops!)

I do 10L batches, BIAB on the stove, so this is halved:

Grains:
Maris Otter 2.25 kg (80.4%)
Munich Malt 250g (8.9%)
Oats 100g (3.6%)
White Sugar 200g (7.1%)

Adapting his hop schedule to what I've got (and reducing it by 15g - he has 350g in his 20L recipe)

FWH: Citra, 12.5g

10 mins:
Citra 12.5g
Nelson 12.5g

Aroma Steep:
Citra 28g
Nelson 28g

Dry hop, 3 days:
Citra 32g
Nelson 44.5

US-05 Yeast

OG: 1.058 - 1.062
FG: 1.008 - 1.010

ABV: 6.8 -7%

61 IBUs
10 EBC

 

[teadixon]

Hi,

I've got 85 grams each of Citra and Nelson Sauvin hops and wanted to make an IPA.

I just wondered about balancing these 2 hops, anyone ever used this combo? How does the below sound? (This is adapted from James Morton's Extra IPA in his book, Brew - he likes to pack in the hops!)

I do 10L batches, BIAB on the stove, so this is halved:

Grains:
Maris Otter 2.25 kg (80.4%)
Munich Malt 250g (8.9%)
Oats 100g (3.6%)
White Sugar 200g (7.1%)

Adapting his hop schedule to what I've got (and reducing it by 15g - he has 350g in his 20L recipe)

FWH: Citra, 12.5g

10 mins:
Citra 12.5g
Nelson 12.5g

Aroma Steep:
Citra 28g
Nelson 28g

Dry hop, 3 days:
Citra 32g
Nelson 44.5

US-05 Yeast

OG: 1.058 - 1.062
FG: 1.008 - 1.010

ABV: 6.8 -7%

61 IBUs
10 EBC

Edit that, I only need to adjust by 5g, not 15 - I have 170, to his 175, I'll make my aroma steep the same as his - 33g each not 28.

 

[donchiquon]

It's a good combination of hops. I brewed a pale ale with 100g split between steep and dry hop. Used a little Magnum to bitter.

The Nelson is really unusual - and works well with the citra.

Enjoy!


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[Brightonnik]

I love nelson but for my money with the prices of those 2 hops I wouldn't want to put them together. For good examples of both try the Oakham citra and from thornbridge the killing to best show of each of the hops.

 

[The Idiot]

For me, both are great hops and can add a real shine to other combinations. However, I'd probably not mix them because I think it might blunt their appeal! You'll get a good beer, no doubt, but I'd rather make two great beers! Use them as late or dry hops backed up by some less outstanding hops for bittering and mid-term hopping.

 

[teadixon]

Thanks all - that's all interesting to consider...

I was mulling over blending a little in the boil and steep and then splitting the batch for dry hopping. I already have the hops so I'm not too worried about the cost (already spent the money so might as well use them!).

Brightonnik - sadly I don't have anywhere nearby that stocks much Thornbridge; I love their beers but don't know that one. I've had some great citra beers from Kernel and just got myself a Tuatara Sauvinova (single hop pale ale with Nelson) so I'm giving that a go now. :drink:

 

[Hoppyland]

It's a good combination of hops. I brewed a pale ale with 100g split between steep and dry hop. Used a little Magnum to bitter.

Second this. I've used both these hops & for me they would work well together - complementing each other rather than killing or blunting.
I'd definitely go with a separate bittering hop - maybe Magnum as suggested, or something similar, perhaps Warrior.
Save the 25g of early-addition Citra/Nelson and use them for extra flavour or dry-hop!

 

[cheapbrew]

I've done nelson cascade and citra and that was lovely, but I agree use a neutral bittering hop like magnum or warrior the citra in the boil will be too much to get the best from the nelson and citra later additions