Ukraine: Russia has launched 'full-scale invasion'

[Chippy_Tea]

The 27 heads of state of the EU will gather for an emergency meeting in Brussels at 8 p.m. local time on Thursday, where Von der Leyen is due to present a new set of sanctions against Moscow

These will target strategic sectors of the Russian economy by blocking access to key technologies and markets.

The European Union will go ahead with more sanctions against Russia on Thursday, following Moscow’s decision to invade Ukraine.

“President Putin is responsible for bringing war back to Europe. In these dark hours, the European Union stands together with Ukraine and its people,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said early Thursday.

“What we are facing is an unprecedented act of aggression by the Russian leadership against a sovereign, independent country,” she added.

“Russia’s target is not just Donbass, the target is not just Ukraine, the target is stability in Europe and the whole international rules-based order. For that, we will hold Russia accountable.”

The 27 heads of state of the EU will gather for an emergency meeting in Brussels at 8 p.m. local time on Thursday, where Von der Leyen is due to present a new set of sanctions against Moscow.

These will target strategic sectors of the Russian economy by blocking access to key technologies and markets. They will also look to “weaken Russia’s economic base and its capacity to modernize” and “freeze Russian assets in the EU and stop the access of Russian banks to the European financial market,” von der Leyen also said.

Earlier Thursday morning, European Council President Charles Michel, who will be chairing the meeting in Brussels, said the heads of state will be adopting these measures “swiftly.”

Thursday’s plan to adopt more sanctions against Russia comes after an initial package of measures was introduced earlier this week. In it, the EU went as far as sanctioning Russia’s Defense Ministry and the Putin’s chief of staff.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/eu-...nctions-on-russia-after-ukraine-invasion.html

 

[Leon103]

Sanctions will be removed at a drop of a hat. Putin will quickly destroy Ukraine and get what he wants, and all other leaders will quickly forget and cancel all sanctions.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Looks like our sanctions as was widely suggested didn't go far enough, what happens now?

Haven't ready any, don't know much. Sanctions will strip a general population of their spirit, regardless of the PR put out.
I don't know where Russia gets their resources or how resource-rich they are. It's also possible that some other country(s) isn't/aren't doing what they say they're doing.
Very sad.

 

[DavidDetroit]

If Putin thought that, he wouldnt have launched an enormous invasion surely?

I wouldn't assign "reasonable thought" as being possessed by someone like Putin.

 

[Brianbrewed]

I don't know where Russia gets their resources or how resource-rich they are.

Russia is a major exporter of fossil fuels, including oil and gas.
Europe secure most of its heating fuel from Russia.
Sanctions against will have a huge impact on the standard of living in Europe.
Will the citizens of France, Germany, UK or Italy put up with the economic pain?
Time will tell

 

[DavidDetroit]

Russia is a major exporter of fossil fuels, including oil and gas.
Europe secure most of its heating fuel from Russia.
Sanctions against will have a huge impact on the standard of living in Europe.
Will the citizens of France, Germany, UK or Italy put up with the economic pain?
Time will tell

Thanks, Brian.
I would hope we all would put up with the economic pain. It doesn't seem much of a choice to me.
I recall reading that Russia's GNP isn't much different than California's. I could be way off the mark though. It's been a long time since I involved myself.

 

[Brianbrewed]

Russia's GDP is the same as Spain's.

However Russia has nuclear weapons.

It seems Putin wants to re create the Russian Empire.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Russia's GDP is the same as Spain's.

However Russia has nuclear weapons.

It seems Putin wants to re create the Russian Empire.

I'm not willing to bet what "crazy," by definition, will or won't do.

 

[samale]

I'm not willing to bet what "crazy," by definition, will or won't do.

What makes you think he's crazy

 

[Brianbrewed]

I'm not willing to bet what "crazy," by definition, will or won't do.

Putin has said before he wishes to see NATO back at its pre 1997 border (ie Germany and Austria)
That means Eastern and Central Europe back into the Russian sphere of influence.

 

[DavidDetroit]

What makes you think he's crazy

If you're serious, my post would be pages.
If you were making a joke, I'll tell you straightforward, I did laugh.

 

[samale]

If you're serious, my post would be pages.
If you were making a joke, I'll tell you straightforward, I did laugh.

Is he any worse than biden/trump or Boris Johnson

 

[samale]

I will throw Tony Blair and Bush in there as well

 

[Brianbrewed]

I'm not willing to bet what "crazy," by definition, will or won't do.

Putin is neither crazy or evil.

He is a former KGB agent who later became head of the FSB (the KGBs succesor)
Putin has managed to keep power in Russia for over 20 years where he has launced wars against Chechyna, Georgia, Syria and Ukraine.

The man has a world view and strategy.

He may, however, have become out of touch from being in power for so long.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Is he any worse than biden/trump or Boris Johnson

Well, I wouldn't sully any human's name by using a virgule to compare the craziest American public figure I've ever encountered, for starters.
The answer is an all-caps "yes."
President Biden and Boris Johnson have exhibited none of the qualities of Putin. Insanity is a degree and bare-chested Putin on horse should be enough for you and the average person to be horrified that he's in control. The list of warning signs is not short.

 

[DavidDetroit]

Putin is neither crazy or evil.

Yes, he is. There's no amount of explanation or justification that points otherwise. In your defense, insane people don't necessarily look insane (no drooling or pointing to spiders on the ceiling that aren't there).
Just for starters: bombing another nation is INSANE period. You should step back and rethink what that means. it's not an insult. Really look at what that entails.
What threat does the Ukraine bring to Russia? What real threat? None, of course.
That is INSANITY.

 

[samale]

Yes, he is. There's no amount of explanation or justification that points otherwise. In your defense, insane people don't necessarily look insane (no drooling or pointing to spiders on the ceiling that aren't there).
Just for starters: bombing another nation is INSANE period. You should step back and rethink what that means. it's not an insult. Really look at what that entails.
What threat does the Ukraine bring to Russia? What real threat? None, of course.
That is INSANITY.

I totally agree with your point but surely that also includes Iraq and Afghanistan. I think the UK and US billed themselves as the peacekeepers of the world.
I am totally against all War's and needless loss of life

 

[DavidDetroit]

I totally agree with your point but surely that also includes Iraq and Afghanistan. I think the UK and US billed themselves as the peacekeepers of the world.
I am totally against all War's and needless loss of life

Absolutely. I'm well-embarrassed (for starters) by the US on a world stage and our dismissal of what's best. There are levels and degrees of evil/insanity though and I believe Putin falls far into that pit. I'm thinking Kim/Trump/Putin versus Bush/Johnson, that kind of thing. We have about the dirtiest hands you can get, in my opinion.
For all of that, I continue to hope for the best.

 

[samale]

This is the first time in my life time were I actually looked and went this is not good. Normally it's a super power against a smaller nation. This has the potential to get out of hand

 

[DavidDetroit]

This is the first time in my life time were I actually looked and went this is not good.

My first was highly disturbing, even to this day.
Here's to hoping that our countries unite and sanity prevails.