Attempting a Saison from a Pils kit.

Markdon · Feb 25, 2014

After seeing the Biere Du Mois Saison on the coopers site i fancied having a crack at it but going to try two different approaches as i didnt want to use two kits and extra fermentables.

This being the first brew, the second will go on next week.

Brew 1:

Coopers brewmaster pilsener kit
1.8kg muntons light malt extract
Safbrew T-58 yeast
40g Styrian Goldings Hops(added for 5 days after fermentation complete then rack)

Brew 2:

Coopers brewmaster pilsener kit
1.8kg wheat malt extract
Danstar belle saison yeast
40g Saaz Hops(added for 5 days after fermentation complete then rack)

Not really sure what im trying to achieve, just like to experiment a bit and like this style of beer. Just be interesting how the two turn out and if they taste like a saison style or if they are ******* childs of the style.

So started brew 1 tonight. 22L og 1.048 pitched @ 15c, ferment temp will be 16-18c.

Fingers crossed.

clibit · Feb 25, 2014

Will be an interesting experiment. Keep us posted. :thumb:

Markdon · Feb 26, 2014

Temp is now 18c and bubbling away happily.

clibit · Feb 26, 2014

Think you will find these Coopers Pilsener reviews interesting...

http://ratebeerkits.com/items/view/coopers-pilsner

Markdon · Feb 26, 2014

Lots of Saaz going on there, cool.

Wish i could get the temp down but its the coldest part of the house, apart from the shed, but thats 6.5c at the minute.

clibit · Feb 26, 2014

Bring it round my house, lots of it below that! Cold night.

Markdon · Feb 26, 2014

You in a stone cottage or something? Ive not got the rad on in the utility room and the liquid temp is now 19c!

Might put it outside for a bit then bring it back in before bed.

clibit · Feb 27, 2014

No, just came back from work late, to a cold empty house. That's divorce for you. :doh:

On the upside, I then had an evening to myself, no rules imposed. :party:

Markdon · Feb 27, 2014

It had crept up to 19.9c today so i put it outside for a few hours til it dropped down to 13.4c, brought it inside and a hour later its up to 15.2c, room temp is 18.6c.

May have to put it in the shed in a bucket of water with a spare aquarium heater tomorrow.

Most sulphurous brew yet, proper honks!

clibit · Feb 27, 2014

Yep, the T58 will stink to high heaven. :whistle:

Markdon · Feb 28, 2014

I wasnt sure if the flavours from the yeast would be enough? I will wait til ferment finishes then add some bits before racking.

Thanks for the pointers.

clibit · Feb 28, 2014

I would be inclined to either do it without added spices, to check the yeasts out, or just rack a gallon into a demijohn if you have one, as Rob suggests, and add spices to that, as an experiment.

Markdon · Feb 28, 2014

Ah yeh, good plan. I have a 5L water bottle i could use. Once ferment has finished i will rack and add hops, then after a week rack again into two containers and add spices to one then pit them in the shed for a week or two.

clibit · Feb 28, 2014

I have never used spices, so not sure when they are added, but the idea of splitting it is a good one. The more ways you experiment, the more you learn. :thumb:

Markdon · Feb 28, 2014

Only used them in my mega death firey ginger beer, added at the start after boiling them in a pan for a bit, but they mellowed out during fermentation, so added more after ferment and they stayed. Think best after ferment as the flavour stays stronger.

Markdon · Feb 28, 2014

Worth a shot!

Markdon · Mar 16, 2014

Been at 1.014 for a week now so going to rack and hop tonight, fair buildup on the bottom. Will leave it on hops for 5 days then final rack for it to go into the shed for two weeks before bottling. Will split 5L off to add peppercorns, ginger and star anise to as another experiment. Will get brew number two underway next weekend.

clibit · Mar 16, 2014

You're playin a blinder by the sound of it. Fingers crossed!

Markdon · Mar 16, 2014

Was surprisingly tasty from the trial jar, probably better than any of the others so far. Know that it can change massively over time, but hopes are high. Could also detect a slight spicy note but quite sweet too, the 5L brew could be interesting with the additional bits in.

clibit · Mar 17, 2014

Not sure what the sweetness is all about. What do you make of the yeast? And the hops?

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