Well I saw a comment on here last week regarding ''Twang'' and I asked what it was and it was explained. Today I sampled my last ever tinned beer kit which was maturing and sampled it. On the first sipped I understood what twang is. I am not sure if any of my other beers in the past had the same taste, most likely they did but my brain most likely brushed over it. But having it explained and then experiencing it has totally re-enforced my decision to go to all grain and has taken the edge of the initial outlay. :thumb: