Upgrading the yeast with a kit?

[Mark-S]

Hello all
Most of my brewing is via kits, I use Coopers and Youngs as I am based in the UK, Do I need to use a different yeast other than the one provided
if I use 500grams of malt extract and 700 of brewing sugar?

 

[Clint]

I'd say no. The Cooper's and Young's yeast seem to be fine.

 

[kelper]

If you are unlucky and a kit's yeast seems not to work, it's always handy to have some small packs of ale yeast in the fridge.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I've just made 15L of Chocolate milk stout using a Range kit. I will replace the yeast with CML Beoir when it cools.

 

[terrym]

I'd say not necessary need. Kit yeasts usually do the job intended. If you want to improve a kit far better spend your money on extra hops or grain for a steep if it's a one can, or buy a premium kit. And if you have a premium kit that no doubt cost more than £20 is there any real need to spend yet more money?

 

[Clint]

What's the newer range of CML yeasts like?
I used all their original but struggle with the flocculation..
Is their Trent the same as Notty? Sticks like the brown stuff to blankets??

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I've used most of them and they are good but never used Trent.

 

[terrym]

What's the newer range of CML yeasts like?
I used all their original but struggle with the flocculation..
Is their Trent the same as Notty? Sticks like the brown stuff to blankets??

I have used the Midland. It starts off sticky then seems to get stickier each generation I used. Its very top fermenting and forms a thick yeast krausen which stays long after other yeasts I have used would have dropped. And it sticks to the bottom of the bottles really well.
I have a beer with 'Four' in the FV at present, which is another English ale yeast. Too early to tell what its like. However they also have 'Five' a US Ale yeast. I wonder if these are related to S-04 and S-05, neither of which I have used as it happens.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I'm never sure whether their yeasts are clones or the original yeast repackaged.

 

[Drunkula]

John Bull, Tom Caxton and Geordie kits come with s-33 which you might want to swap out for something more appropriate and more flocculant. Don't bin it - keep it for something else. It works well enough with a wheat beer. Or boil it and use it as nutrient.

 

[Mark-S]

I'd say no. The Cooper's and Young's yeast seem to be fine.

Thank you