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One minute its eat 5 a day to keep cancer away then some other "expert" says its a load of rubbish just eat healthily, and now bread is a killer -

I saw this on the news yesterday -

Ultra-processed foods 'linked to cancer'

A link between highly processed foods and cancer has been suggested by French researchers.

What counts as ultra-processed
  • Mass-produced packaged breads and buns
  • Sweet or savoury packaged snacks including crisps
  • Chocolate bars and sweets
  • Sodas and sweetened drinks
  • Meatballs, poultry and fish nuggets
  • Instant noodles and soups
  • Frozen or shelf-life ready meals
  • Foods made mostly or entirely from sugar, oils and fats

and now we have another "expert telling us it is not the case - "http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-43079160/what-you-need-to-know-about-bread

I eat most things on the list but not all the time, why don't they say eat healthily and stop giving us new lists of foods to avoid every six months.:roll:

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Thought this was about Bucks Fizz at first, but no. I stopped paying any heed to these people ages ago and eat, drink and smoke to my heart's desire. Had a fabulous vindaloo for breakfast today as it happens. Sure, I was awoken later by the most horrendous heartburn but no lasting damage done. Do these clowns want everyone to become tofu-munching, granola-chomping marathon runners or summat?
 
At the end of the day, no foods can kill you or stop you from dying. All anyone's diet can do is very slightly adjust the probability levels.

I have always remembered a quote from a Peter James novel, "It's not what you eat that kills you, it's worrying about what you eat!" I have taken that to heart and just ignore the 'so called' experts advice.

At least we can be sure that beer is good for you.:smile6:
 
About 20 years ago the govt. were advised that 28 units a week was a safer level of alcohol than 21 units because, on average, it would give you the highest life expectancy. (For men.)
Great days. I aspire to the paradise of drinking 28 units a week. Unfortunately I'm approaching this paradise from the mountains, not the valleys.
A few crisps next. That salad did nothing for me.
 
The world we live in, it seems that everyone wants to be told the "one thing you need" or the "best food to eat". Its like the fad at the moment for putting protein in everything. There has been some research that excessive protein in the diet as as bad for you as excessive carbs or fat...

Everything needs to be done in balance. One of the problems is that people are so disconnected from the food they eat none of this makes sense anymore.

Take meat for example. I don't agree with being a vegetarian or vegan, what would happen to all the cows and pigs if that was the case....

But what I do agree with is that people eat too much meat and tend to eat the same parts. 50 years ago, liver, kidneys etc would all be consumed by the family, each part brings its own nutrients to the party so people get everything they need. If the family had a pig, that meat was preserved to last until their next years pig was ready for slaughter, this meant peoples meat intake was in balance across a year.

Now a days, if you tried to "put together" an animal from what is on sale you would be hard pressed to find most parts.
 
Now a days, if you tried to "put together" an animal from what is on sale you would be hard pressed to find most parts.
That doesnt mean they don't enter the human food chain. If you buy processed meat products then I would bet somewhere in there is the offal you don't see on the butcher's counter or supermarket shelf. Sausages, pork pies, doner kebabs would perhaps be the most likely places I would guess. And can you still buy 'beef paste'? Nothing is going to be wasted, perhaps Google 'Mechanically Recovered Meat' to check.
 
Thought this was about Bucks Fizz at first, but no. I stopped paying any heed to these people ages ago and eat, drink and smoke to my heart's desire. Had a fabulous vindaloo for breakfast today as it happens. Sure, I was awoken later by the most horrendous heartburn but no lasting damage done. Do these clowns want everyone to become tofu-munching, granola-chomping marathon runners or summat?

If they had their way we would all be soy boys.
 
That doesnt mean they don't enter the human food chain. If you buy processed meat products then I would bet somewhere in there is the offal you don't see on the butcher's counter or supermarket shelf. Sausages, pork pies, doner kebabs would perhaps be the most likely places I would guess. And can you still buy 'beef paste'? Nothing is going to be wasted, perhaps Google 'Mechanically Recovered Meat' to check.

There is a big difference between eating sausages on the off chance it contains some liver alongside the pulverised bones, cartildge and gristle and eating good quality offal.

Below is the minerals found in Beef liver... I very much doubt many Richmond sausages can claim that!

Copper
An 81-gram slice of cooked beef liver contains 11,800 micrograms of copper. This amount supplies well over 100 percent of the 900 micrograms that the Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board recommends for adult men and women on a daily basis. Copper aids in collagen and red blood cell synthesis and promotes the function of the immune and nervous systems. Eating copper-rich foods may lessen your risk of osteoporosis and osteoarthritis, though be aware that regularly consuming more than 10,000 micrograms of copper a day may result in kidney or liver damage. You can prevent copper toxicity by following a varied diet that includes high-copper foods like beef liver only occasionally.

Phosphorus
Adults need 700 milligrams of phosphorus each day, and a serving of cooked beef liver supplies almost 40 percent of this requirement. Phosphorus regulates the levels of nutrients like magnesium, vitamin D and zinc. It helps with the growth, development and maintenance of bones and teeth and is necessary for the production of DNA and RNA. According to the University of Maryland Medical Center, inadequate phosphorus intake is rare in the United States since many Americans get more than they need from animal products like meat and carbonated beverages. To balance out your phosphorus levels, be sure to include plenty of calcium-rich foods in your diet -- consuming too much phosphorus and too little calcium is linked to a higher risk of heart disease and osteoporosis.


Selenium
Each 81-gram slice of prepared beef liver has 26.6 micrograms of selenium, or about 48 percent of the required daily intake for adults. Selenium has antioxidant properties that enable it to inhibit the DNA-damaging ability of free radical compounds. Its presence is also necessary in order for the immune system and thyroid gland to work properly. If your diet lacks adequate selenium, you may be more likely to develop cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, heart disease and recurrent infections.

Zinc
The body needs zinc to promote the healing of skin wounds, to help regulate hormones and glands in the endocrine system and to aid in blood coagulation. A serving of beef liver contains 4.25 milligrams of zinc, which fulfills 38 percent of the RDA of zinc for men and 53 percent of the RDA for women. Adequate zinc intake may help prevent age-related macular degeneration and neurological disorders like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.

Iron
Men should have 8 milligrams of iron each day, while women require 18 milligrams daily. Consuming an 81-gram slice of cooked beef liver provides men with 62.5 percent of their recommended daily intake and women with 27.7 percent of their RDA. Iron plays a vital role in red blood cell production and in the formation of the main source of cellular energy, adenosine triphosphate, or ATP. A diet lacking sufficient iron may lead to anemia and impaired neurological development, especially in children.
 
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There is a big difference between eating sausages on the off chance it contains some liver alongside the pulverised bones, cartildge and gristle and eating good quality offal.
Below is the minerals found in Beef liver... I very much doubt many Richmond sausages can claim that!
I agree with that. Fortunately you can still get liver from supermarkets as well as butchers. We have lambs liver from time, I love it but my wife is not so keen. That said I am not so fond of ox or pigs liver so we don't have it, and I won't go near kidneys. And like you said earlier many years ago offal like ox tail, chitterlings (intenstines), pigs cheek, pigs brain and tripe were commonplace as part of ordinary family meals, I know, I've had a few of them!
 
I take a multivitamin pill every morning and have done for a couple of years.
 
I used to have tripe every Friday as a child...I do like tripe and if I see some might get it to see if I still like it...
Aye! Tripe, me old Dad & I used to have it often, as for liver and onions - luverrrley!
As me old Ma was a Scot, Haggis as well! Now I only eat home made steak & kidney pie or pudding as there is not much kidney in the shop ones now.
Cheers
 
Possibly slightly off-topic but just had a Farmfoods flyer through the letterbox. There's an image of a 1kg block of extra mature cheddar on the back page.

"Once opened consume within 3 days" it says on the label....

And they wonder why there's an obesity crisis ;-)
 
It annoys me that if a "celebrity chef" cooks something the price goes up. When I was a student they virtually gave you belly pork. I'd cut the nipples off and make sweet and sour. It's now a delicacy and costs a fortune.
 
Possibly slightly off-topic but just had a Farmfoods flyer through the letterbox. There's an image of a 1kg block of extra mature cheddar on the back page.

"Once opened consume within 3 days" it says on the label....

And they wonder why there's an obesity crisis ;-)

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It annoys me that if a "celebrity chef" cooks something the price goes up. When I was a student they virtually gave you belly pork. I'd cut the nipples off and make sweet and sour. It's now a delicacy and costs a fortune.

Couldn't agree more! have you seen the cost of ox tail recently! bonkers for how little meat there is!

Not related to that but last summer I did curry goat, the goat was around £25 per kilo (I needed 3 kilo as was a big party...) checked the price of goat last time i was in Sheffield, £7 per kilo! Very annoyed that I live in an area where there isn't the demand! :D

Possibly slightly off-topic but just had a Farmfoods flyer through the letterbox. There's an image of a 1kg block of extra mature cheddar on the back page.

"Once opened consume within 3 days" it says on the label....

And they wonder why there's an obesity crisis ;-)

I could easily eat 1kg of cheese in 3 days... but I love the idea that something that has been aging for months somehow goes off because its not in its plastic wrapper!
 
People just don't eat offal as much and the cost of liver and kidney's is proportional to demand, only 2 kidneys and 1 liver per animal! There was only 2 billion people when I was young now theres 7 billion supply and demand. I love kidneys and onion on toast used to have it as breakfast no chance these days (mainly the wife is a part veg'), loved pig hock but since they became popular with chefs can't get them. Tripe and braun never took to had a tiny little taste as kid thought I don't want to eat brains and guts, pre zombie craze too :)

Most cancers though are genetic predispositions from current research, also heavy metal poisoning is still very real - everyone seems obilious too (remember the roman empire). I recently noticed that the seaweed I throw into my spicy noodle soup I have become addicted to has high lead content ( the brand I have been using has anyway which may absorp the radiation they contain), at my age couldn't give a flying .... (an act I have trouble these days completing lol). High arsenic, cyanide in soils and foods are not uncommon the issue I believe is that people don't vary diets as much. In the past you ate what you could get, now you can choose, all with to much salt added. If your diet has high arsenic or mercury/lead and you're eating it every day!

Eat lots of fruit both fresh and fermented! Something I noticed slightly off topic or maybe relievant all the apple on tree where eaten this year by birds, at the same time I had been throwing bought apples into the compost, three months on I noticed that the birds haven't touched the bought apples, so cut one open still fresh and firm what the hell are they doing to them?

The crunch is over processed - too much salt, sodium derivates, high heavy metal content (too much anthrax , thrash leading in a downward spiral to death metal...lol). Just a thought, drunken albeit!
 
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