strange-steve
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I agree about teaching kids to have respect for their environment and consideration for others that use the space, but I don’t think the pressure to conform that is engendered in Japanese society is particularly helpful either.
Financial anxiety and insecurity are compounded by Japan's culture of not complaining.
"There are not many ways to express anger or frustration in Japan," says Mr Nishida.
"This is a rule-oriented society. Young people are moulded to fit in to a very small box. They have no way to express their true feelings.
"If they feel under pressure from their boss and get depressed, some feel the only way out is to die."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-33362387
I know I’ve drifted from the original point somewhat, apologies if this isn’t appropriate.
Linalmeemow
Landlord.
Yeah, I'm very familiar with how Japanese society works, and wouldn't recommend the pressure that's put on kids in a lot of other ways. Teaching respect for, and encouraging ownership of, your immediate environment is shown to work though.
TheOsprey
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As a teacher, I'd like to say they certainly are schooled to have a sense of responsibility for their environment. The children I teach these days are acutely aware of the damage single use plastics, pollution and littering have on their area and the planet.
We also spend lots of time teaching about the risks of too much screen time, poor diets and hygiene, but we are fighting a losing battle.
This is the key issue I think. At school this week, a couple of shirtless kids (14 or 15 yo) walked across our school field towards us and our children - taking a short cut. We told them it was private property and they couldn't be there. Their response? "So? Who's going to stop me?"
Before covid I couldn't, I certainly can't now.
This.
I genuinely think if society as a whole went "right, we will all hold people to account in public", we'd be in a better place. People are afraid of being abused or attacked, and to be honest, if they were, the culprits probably wouldn't see justice.
I was once in Ventnor on the Isle of Wight and two teens were walking a dog on the beach. The dog took a ****, and the boys walked off and left it. A woman on the esplanade shouted at them to clear it up. The conversation went like this.
"Oi, you can't leave that there."
"what?"
"The poo, you can't leave it there."
"oh yeah, I know, but I haven't got any bags"
"you came out to walk your dog without any bags?"
"I know, it's not ideal."
...
"Do you have any bags?"
"No. There's a row of shops back there."
In the end, one boy went to get the bags, while the other stayed with the dog. Just talked them into a corner. Having a few witnesses probably helped.
I have a feeling if that happened here it would have gone something like "Why don't you go f**k yourself you nosey cow"
Its not just the youth as the title says it pigs of all agers.
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The girls are no better!
It was ever thus..............
"History Begins at Sumer," by Noah Kramer
(Philadephia, 1981); chapter 3. It contains a translation of a Sumerian
essay on Juvenile Delinquency, c. 1700 BC, the first known such case.
The text begins with the father asking his son:
"Where did you go?"
"I did not go anywhere."
"If you did not go anywhere, why do you idle about? Go to school,
stand before your 'school-father', recite your assignment..."
The entire text is quite long, but ends with the father saying:
"I, night and day am I tortured because of you. Night and day you
waste in pleasures. You have accumulated much wealth, have expanded far
and wide, have become fat, big, broad, powerful, and puffed. But your
kin waits expectantly for your misfortune, and will rejoice at it
because you looked not to your humanity."
I am beginning to worry about you Kelper. 
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Same in Netherlands. Over 60 people already have a damaged spine because of this, some of them permanently crippled.
What do you mean? nitrous oxide won't Injure your spine?
The thing is you can't even punch someone in the face these days for being an arsehole...they go from being dead big and clever to moaning about their rights and feelings or something...
They may have stood on them and lost their footing.
Which post? Or all of them?I am beginning to worry about you Kelper.
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chillipickle
Landlord.
It certainly is a sorry state of affairs these days.Maybe im just getting old and miserable, but getting the black board wiper thrown at you or a slap with a plimpsole for playing up at school never done most of us any harm.
Just a small example of no bloody respect these days......The national trust just put about 12 benches out along the river thames walk, a few days later some ****hole though it was cool to scribble all over it with a permanent marker pen.
Thankfully 10 mins of rubbing down with 60 grit paper removed it.....rant over.
Just a small example of no bloody respect these days......The national trust just put about 12 benches out along the river thames walk, a few days later some ****hole though it was cool to scribble all over it with a permanent marker pen.
Thankfully 10 mins of rubbing down with 60 grit paper removed it.....rant over.
Thats what they should do to their ******** when caught to teach them a lesson.
chillipickle
Landlord.
A much better solution......2 house bricks, far less rubbing!!
Only if I can use an angle grinder before I start sanding.
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