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I'm wondering if the average person's defense against WEF and future serfdom is the human lifespan itself? 🤔

I believe prince and david bowie were particular about how their music was used and yet since their passing have heard their music in places i'd not have associated previously. I.E - Generally your influence declines once you're dead and can even be reversed. The victorians, Thomas Telford, I K Brunel and baziljet's contribution however far outlasted their mortality. As well as titus salt (trying to steer back to beer here wink... )
 
I believe prince and david bowie were particular about how their music was used and yet since their passing have heard their music in places i'd not have associated previously.
I think both those artists were controlled by record companies, Prince had to change his name to symbol for that reason
 
Feel free to put me on your ignore list then you wont have to read them in future, i have a 15,101 reaction score so forum members obviously don't share your view.

While discussing stats the picture/video thread has 57,000 views and 1000 posts and my supermarket juice wine thread has 474,000 views and 3,000 posts can any of your threads match that ;)
I brew all grain beer.
Never came across any supermarket juice wine threads tbh.

I stumbled across the forum researching water chemistry for all grain beer.
 
I listened to this a few years back
Explains the theory about 15 minute city (without the conspiracy theory knackers swallow)

 
https://sociable.co/web/wef-director-youll-own-nothing-be-happy-disinformation-campaign/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worlde...ifferently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=4d615c531735
Read these, unless Forbes and The Sociable are "far-right conspiracy nutters" aswell...
With a bit of googling you can find more articles about this, from sites like Politico and Medium, there are political thinkers and writers from both the left and right leaning spectrum expressing concern.
I am not trying to peddle the intergalactic reptilian jews ******** because that is, well, ********.
But what these billionaire self appointed guides of humanity are heavily implying what they want to do regarding societal develpmont is concerning, and you should be concerned.
 
https://sociable.co/web/wef-director-youll-own-nothing-be-happy-disinformation-campaign/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worlde...ifferently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=4d615c531735
Read these, unless Forbes and The Sociable are "far-right conspiracy nutters" aswell...
With a bit of googling you can find more articles about this, from sites like Politico and Medium, there are political thinkers and writers from both the left and right leaning spectrum expressing concern.
I am not trying to peddle the intergalactic reptilian jews ******** because that is, well, ********.
But what these billionaire self appointed guides of humanity are heavily implying what they want to do regarding societal develpmont is concerning, and you should be concerned.
And governments are completely in bed with them. I think it's a bit harsh people calling others "conspiracy nuts" when the WEF is saying these things and then you have top government ministers wearing their badges. Irish example attached.
 

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Why are Oxford and Canterbury implementing 15 minute cities?

We have ULEZ zones to reduce traffic and pollution, some towns and city centres are completely traffic free, why the need for something different, do ULEZ not work? Is it because it will be cheaper for citizens without ULEZ? Why not close off streets to traffic to encourage less car use?
Almost any conurbation you visit has the amenities, shops, green spaces and utilities you need within 15 minutes, are these lacking in Oxford and Canterbury? What benefits will the level of movement control bring to its citizens in terms of accessing amenities? Are they building more shops, schools, libraries, museums, hospitals all within the 15 minute zones?
 
Why are Oxford and Canterbury implementing 15 minute cities?

We have ULEZ zones to reduce traffic and pollution, some towns and city centres are completely traffic free, why the need for something different, do ULEZ not work? Is it because it will be cheaper for citizens without ULEZ? Why not close off streets to traffic to encourage less car use?
Almost any conurbation you visit has the amenities, shops, green spaces and utilities you need within 15 minutes, are these lacking in Oxford and Canterbury? What benefits will the level of movement control bring to its citizens in terms of accessing amenities? Are they building more shops, schools, libraries, museums, hospitals all within the 15 minute zones?
Because it’s the latest buzz word in urban planning their is nothing particularly new about the idea that people living in cities should have most facilities within walking distance and as is pointed out in the policy document put out by Oxford city council the majority of Oxford does have these facilities within walking distance, seriously Oxford is a pretty small city.

Somehow the posted video has managed to combine a policy document on urban planning and some new congestion easing policies (which yes always get a lot of flack and knowing how things tend to go in Oxford will properly get modified out of recognition in a few years but yes do include closing off certain streets to private cars) into some dystopian nightmare where people will be confined to specific zones of the city only able to escape with the express permission of the city council.

As for who is implementing this, well Oxford City council is democratically elected by the residents of Oxford half the seats where up for election in 2022 and the next elections are in 2024, this is not some ‘globalist conspiracy’ it’s just a rather dry policy document put out by a local city council.
 
And governments are completely in bed with them. I think it's a bit harsh people calling others "conspiracy nuts" when the WEF is saying these things and then you have top government ministers wearing their badges. Irish example attached.
On a philosophical note:

The CIA originally invented the term 'conspiracy theory' to debunk claims of their involvement over the shooting of JFK and to discredit the people questioning what had happened and to shut down the debate. The term is used in just the same way today to shutdown debate of the 'tin foil' hatters, its meaning has become lost.

People that use the term conspiracy theory against others are usually in the early stages of the acceptance cycle of shock and anger, in relation to the subject matter, disbelief of the subject matter or even an unwillingness to look at it borne from the source who usually has been fully discredited elsewhere already (in this case Katie Hopkins).

Some people never get past the early stages and remain angry and shocked - new concepts that change paradigms are not easy to digest, this is understandable and the standard 'conspiracy theory' response should be recognised for what it is.

If someone told me the earth was flat, which goes against my belief that the earth is round, then I wouldn't label them as a conspiracy theorist or tin foil hatter, just because they hold a different viewpoint, I would question their theory and try and understand their viewpoint, maybe even test their theory, you never know, it might just change your paradigm!
 
"You'll own nothing and be happy" is a bit too snazzy - Do we have to focus on capitalism? I Think owning the roof over your head and whatever you need for personal mobility and your clothes is fine by me I'm not after more,more,more. lots of other stuff is transient. netflix / sky / vm subscriptions. I own some blu-ray and compact disks. you can't 'own' a holiday in a sense although you can own a tent to go on holiday or a holiday home. Cars are an interesting case so many people get them on PCP so for those people they don't own a car and I assume they are happy?

Restrictions on travel is my biggest concern. As was experimented with during covid-19. In that sense it could be seen as a dry run for a more restrictive future. All in the name of climate change. Well global warming was a poor choice of words. Especially when it was found that there had been a period of global cooling. Now climate change fits better, because the climate does change its an established phenomena. Tree remains have been found in a polar region so clearly it was warmer in the past and we weren't really around to have caused that.

When robots can accomplish more than they do at present thats the time to worry. Business has always tried to reduce staffing levels where possible for an improved bottom line.

Look at all the self service in supermarkets. One person to manage issues with 10 self serve checkouts.....
 
If someone told me the earth was flat, which goes against my belief that the earth is round, then I wouldn't label them as a conspiracy theorist or tin foil hatter, just because they hold a different viewpoint, I would question their theory and try and understand their viewpoint, maybe even test their theory, you never know, it might just change your paradigm!

Copernicus, how dare he suggest the earth was not the center of the universe. :laugh8: Granted as we live here it is the centre of our universe but not THE universe
 
On a philosophical note:

The CIA originally invented the term 'conspiracy theory' to debunk claims of their involvement over the shooting of JFK and to discredit the people questioning what had happened and to shut down the debate. The term is used in just the same way today to shutdown debate of the 'tin foil' hatters, its meaning has become lost.

People that use the term conspiracy theory against others are usually in the early stages of the acceptance cycle of shock and anger, in relation to the subject matter, disbelief of the subject matter or even an unwillingness to look at it borne from the source who usually has been fully discredited elsewhere already (in this case Katie Hopkins).

Some people never get past the early stages and remain angry and shocked - new concepts that change paradigms are not easy to digest, this is understandable and the standard 'conspiracy theory' response should be recognised for what it is.

If someone told me the earth was flat, which goes against my belief that the earth is round, then I wouldn't label them as a conspiracy theorist or tin foil hatter, just because they hold a different viewpoint, I would question their theory and try and understand their viewpoint, maybe even test their theory, you never know, it might just change your paradigm!
This post reeks of Alex Jones, I'm afraid. I've heard it all before.
 
In any way questioning current developments or disagreeing with a narrative is "reeking of Alex Jones"? I don't think you have ever seen anything by him or else you would not compare his post to the crazy stuff Alex peddles...
You are very clearly a middle class/upper middle class urbanite Progressive or neoliberal and I find it hilarious how you guys claim to be so tolerant and democratic and free.
But the second anyone in anyway questions {insert current narrative} you start name-calling, trying to shut it down and cry for restrictions on speech etc. You have the right to question everyone who do not share your beliefs but no one can question or challenge yours. The hypocrisy really know no bounds.
It is also very telling no one has commented anything about the articles regarding this from actual reputable sources I posted and gave suggestions to search for...
 
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