No not you... I meant Chippy, saying tent pegs are hard to get into concrete or summat like that! But I didn't mean pitching up in town anyway! A hundred yards from my house is a large, open, public space. Yet the town centre is less than a mile away. That's what I had in mind as I'm sure every town and city has a similar, suitable place. I know that's what I'd do in such a dreadful situation... probably.