The downfall of the Tory party.
- Thread starter Chippy_Tea
- Start date
Help Support The Homebrew Forum:
- Joined
- Mar 22, 2019
- Messages
- 1,099
- Reaction score
- 530
How much wealth is classed as wealthiest?
- Joined
- Mar 22, 2019
- Messages
- 1,099
- Reaction score
- 530
Yes dodgy as heck but at the same time there plenty including some on this forum that ignored lockdown and vaccines
Clarence
Landlord.
None of whom were in any way involved, no matter how remotely, in governing the country or formulating its policies.
It'll be interesting to see what the Met decides to do now that they're "considering" the video. They did nothing over the stills because they were pretty sure they could get away with doing nothing. I wonder if they still think so. They've no interest in making an effort to uphold the law though, have they, especially when they can arrest little old ladies for having a chat and a coffee at different ends of a park bench.
Still, while we've got little old ladies like that, pillars of society and regular church-goers that they surely are, breaking the rules so blatantly, we can hardly expect visitors to No 10 and their associates to do anything other than get absolutely bladdered and have an orgy in the corridors, can we. Stands to reason doesn't it.
Last edited:
user 47834
Regular.
- Joined
- May 1, 2023
- Messages
- 266
- Reaction score
- 191
Rishi abstaining from the privileges committee vote. What a WAP
Forum members didn't make the rules they did then decided to ignore them as you can clearly hear in the video - it is OK to film "as long as we don't stream that we're, like, bending the rules".
I totally agree with Clarence -
Conservative activists filmed dancing at a Christmas party during Covid restrictions in 2020 were invited to "jingle and mingle", according to an invitation seen by the BBC.
Thirty people were invited to the 14 December event at Conservative party headquarters.
At the time London was under Tier-2 restrictions which banned indoor socialising.
Police are reviewing video of the event first published by the Mirror.
In the footage, one person is heard saying it is OK to film "as long as we don't stream that we're, like, bending the rules".
The Conservative Party said four people were disciplined over the event, although it has not named them.
The event was held on behalf of Shaun Bailey's unsuccessful Mayor of London campaign, and Mr Bailey has previously apologised for attending the event, which was thrown for party activists.
He was awarded a peerage in Mr Johnson's resignation honours list last week.
Ben Mallet, a former aide to the ex-prime minister who was awarded an OBE last week, is shown chatting to guests in the latest footage.
Housing Secretary Michael Gove apologised for the video, and told the BBC the footage was "terrible" and would leave people feeling "extremely angry".
In November 2022, Scotland Yard said it was taking no action against Mr Bailey or other people who attended the gathering.
On Monday, the force said is was now "assessing video footage that was not previously provided to officers" in the party.
In a 45-second video published by the Mirror newspaper, people can be seen drinking and standing in groups, while a man and a woman can be seen holding hands and dancing.
One member of the party can be heard asking: "Are you filming this?"
A man then laughs before saying: "As long as we are not streaming that we're bending the rules."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65952298
Former Prime Minister David Cameron has said it was a "mistake" not to consider different types of diseases when preparing for future pandemics.
Giving evidence to the Covid Inquiry, Mr Cameron said "group think" meant his government did not focus enough on pandemics other than flu.
He also denied that his government's austerity policies damaged the UK's ability to cope with Covid.
The inquiry is currently considering preparedness ahead of the pandemic.
George Osborne and Jeremy Hunt, the chancellor and health secretary under Mr Cameron, will give evidence to the inquiry later this week.
Questioned by the inquiry's lawyer Kate Blackwell KC, Mr Cameron said: "Much more time was spent on pandemic flu and the dangers of pandemic flu rather than on potential pandemics of other, more respiratory diseases, like Covid turned out to be.
"This is so important - so many consequences followed from that."
The Conservative former leader said that on becoming prime minister he had sought to improve the UK's planning for risks by changing government structures, including by setting up a National Security Council.
However, he added that there was "always a danger of group think - perhaps that is what is happening here".
"I think the failing was not to ask more questions about asymptomatic transmission."
Mr Cameron was also asked about Exercise Alice - a hypothetical scenario exploring how government departments would cope with an outbreak of the Mers respiratory coronavirus.
He said a report following the exercise included useful suggestions on creating stockpiles of PPE (personal protective equipment) and added: "If you're asking does it look like failures to follow through from this I think there answer is yes."
During the hearing, Mr Cameron was pressed on whether his austerity policies hampered the UK's resilience when facing the pandemic.
Writing in a blog ahead of the hearing, British Medical Association council chairman Phil Banfield said politicians in Mr Cameron's government should be "taken to task over the decisions they made that left us so unprepared".
He argued that cuts to spending and a re-organisation of the NHS meant the health service did not have enough staff or beds.
And at a hearing held last week, Sir Michael Marmot, a professor of epidemiology at University College London told the inquiry that the UK had entered the coronavirus pandemic with "depleted" public services.
Mr Cameron said he didn't accept that description and defended the austerity drive overseen by his government.
He said it was needed to get the public finances in order and without doing so there would have been less money for the NHS.
"Your health system is only as strong as your economy - one pays for the other."
He also pointed out that while other public services were cut, the NHS was actually protected by his government.
During his premiership, the NHS budget rose by an average of 1% to 2% after inflation.
However this compared to an average of 4% during the rest of the health service's history - so while the budget did rise it still represented a squeeze.
And it is a major reason why waiting times have worsened and the UK has fewer staff and beds per head than many other western European countries.
But what was not protected was other areas of health spending, such as training and public health.
However, it is worth noting the Conservatives were not alone in advocating this approach - at both the 2010 and 2015 elections Labour was not promising significantly more for the NHS.
BBC News
user 47834
Regular.
- Joined
- May 1, 2023
- Messages
- 266
- Reaction score
- 191
Long thread but worth the read
Agentgonzo
Landlord.
- Joined
- Aug 23, 2021
- Messages
- 3,509
- Reaction score
- 3,775
All of this (pre-covid) was well known and publicised at the time, yet just shy of 14 million people went "this proven and self-confessed liar is the one we want running the country".
user 47834
Regular.
- Joined
- May 1, 2023
- Messages
- 266
- Reaction score
- 191
It's a classic case ofAll of this (pre-covid) was well known and publicised at the time, yet just shy of 14 million people went "this proven and self-confessed liar is the one we want running the country".
"I don't mind the lies about cheating, ******* children, newspaper columns (especially that as it was lying for a good cause - anti EU), lockdowns, etc" so long as he gets brexit done.
"Don't you think he could be lying about getting brexit done?"
"No, I believe him on that"
Clarence
Landlord.
I don't. If I had any faith in the validity of the referendum, it's officially blown out of the water knowing that the whole thing was based on lies promulgated by Boris and others. The others are just gobs shouting in the wind, but Boris, in his position, has invalidated the whole shebang through misleading the public. It's going to be fun to see how that plays out. Lots of people are having buyer's remorse now we see how the vaunted advantages have not come to pass. Pass the popcorn, while I put up my feet, pour myself a beer and adopt an inane grin.
Last edited:
So lets be honest here, come on own up, how many on here had family gatherings during covid lock downs
, we did birthdays annaverserys mother in laws 85th birthday, i would say at least 85% of the country broke the rules at some point, is Boris squeaky clean no he is not he is the scapegoat for all of us, the main culprit is Matt Hancock who released people from hospital back to care homes to free up beds
, we did birthdays annaverserys mother in laws 85th birthday, i would say at least 85% of the country broke the rules at some point, is Boris squeaky clean no he is not he is the scapegoat for all of us, the main culprit is Matt Hancock who released people from hospital back to care homes to free up beds
Last edited:
I can honestly say i didn't, I was a key worker so had to work closely with other people my parents are in their 80s so we stayed away from them.
Have you any evidence to back this up?
I may be wrong but don't think the majority of Johnson supporters are racist and anti LGBT
Clarence
Landlord.
Neither did we. It's blindingly obvious to me that the way to slow the spread of a disease is to isolate until a vaccine is developed and rolled out. End of. Neither do we know anyone who did blatantly ignore the rules, but then, being locked down, we wouldn't. Johnson, once again, played his favourite role of village idiot by introducing lock down far too late. It's not as if the illness originated in Britain; we had plenty of time to see what was happening in other countries, particularly Italy. And then we squandered the massive advantage of being an island; having taken control of our borders, we refused to control our borders! It's absolutely criminal how the pandemic was handled.
Clarence
Landlord.
The next foreseeable emergency is not a pandemic, but the possibility of at least limited nuclear conflict in Ukraine. Are there anypreparations? I doubt it. I understand the immediate response should be to issue medication to protect the thyroid. Very cheap and easy. I doubt we've got a stockpile of KI tablets to issue if the balloon goes up. The government are too busy infighting.
Last edited:
Similar threads
