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RobWalker

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My first real "homegrown" recipe...apologies that this is in Cups and stuff, but I've just come from a primarily american forum :cheers:

"Zee-Zee Hop" Light Honey Bee-r

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Why brew me?

A very easy to make light beer recipe, something anybody who likes any beer will enjoy with enough hop character to be considered an "ale" while resembling a lager in lightness, as the bitterness is actually lower than the lightest style of ale. It's also quite inexpensive to make!

This is also a good introduction to steeping for all-extract brewers, with little consequences if you do it wrong. I make this solely to keep it kegged so I can experiment with more exciting and complicated stuff and have a good all rounder that's unique enough for me to enjoy. The honey flavour isn't very obvious, but the aftertaste it provides leaves you hankering for more.

Ingredients

4.0lb Light Dry Extract (60 min.)
0.4lb Light Dry Extract (10 min.)
2.0lb Clear Honey (10 min.)
0.5lb Crushed Amber Malt (Steep, 60 min.)

0.50oz East Kent Goldings (60 min.)
0.25oz East Kent Goldings (15 min.)

1/4 tsp Irish Moss (10 min.)
1 Packet Safale S-04 English Ale Yeast

Method

Put your crushed amber malt in a muslin/hop/grain bag. Boil 1 gallon of water to 160 degrees, then turn off the heat and put the bag into the hot water, seal, and leave for 30 minutes. The water will be a murky brown, so the flavour from the amber malt is extracted.

Transfer 1 gallon of water to a larger boiling pan and top up with 2 gallons of water. Bring this to the boil then add your ingredients - 60 minutes starts when the water starts boiling and the first ingredient is added. Adding the honey 10 minutes prior to flame out will retain the flavour.

Pour into fermentation bin and top up water to 5 gallons. Stir THOROUGHLY and take OG reading. When cool, add yeast and leave to ferment for approximately 14 days, moving to a high place ready for syphoning when fermentation is almost complete.

When clear, transfer to keg or bottle adding priming sugar, and it's good to go! Refer to Revvy's chart here for priming quantities - if you want to prime the entire batch at once, transfer to a secondary vessel and mix it in.

Using Corn Sugar (Sucrose) - 2/3 cup for bottling and 1/3 cup for Kegging.
Using Cane Sugar (Sucrose)- 2/3 cup for bottling and 1/3 cup for Kegging.
Using Brown Sugar (Sucrose)- 2/3 cup for bott! ling and 1/3 cup for Kegging.
Using Maple Syrup - 1¼ cup for bottling and 5/8 cup for Kegging.
Using Molasses - 1 cup for bottling and ½ cup for Kegging.
Using Honey - 1 cup for bottling and ½ cup for Kegging.

For non-imperial system fellows, you're looking at 70g of Cane, Brown or Corn sugar, and 150g of Maple Syrup, Molasses and Honey for kegging.

Stuff you can do creatively.

Hops - feel free to use any variety or double the amount in this recipe for an IBU rating similar to a Blonde Ale.

Honey - darker types will leave more residual honey flavour and result in a darker colour, you may also wish to add more honey when bottling and pasteurize, or use honey to prime by heating in a small amount of water, then mixing into the batch.

Malts - Honey Malt would have been my first choice, but it's unavailable in the UK. Amber supplies a little depth, but feel free to try anything!

Spice Tea - I toyed with the idea of adding Elderflower and Ginger to my priming sugar to increase the flavour, but decided against it. There's a million things that will compliment honey, so try them out!

If you make this recipe, or it's useful...

Let me know. Thanks! :)
 
Hi Rob,

"Malts - Honey Malt would have been my first choice, but it's unavailable in the UK. Amber supplies a little depth, but feel free to try anything!"

It's Gambrinus Maltings that make Honey malt in North America. To substitute use Weyermann Melanoidin or Dingemans Aromatic.

Cheers

Rob
 
borischarlton: thanks! they seem to add a "red" colour apparently, but the rest of the characteristics sound just what I'm after. Might give it a try next time, as this is the conclusion i've come to to add body, head and depth, whilst keeping it simple...specialist malts are expensive on postage!

Here's the recipe for v2 using wheat malt in a 3 gallon pot, the partial mash will be easy :)

Zee-Zee Hop V2
Brew Type: Partial Mash Date: 10/09/2011
Style: Blonde Ale Brewer: R. Walker
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer:
Boil Volume: 2.43 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 % Equipment: Brew Pot (3 Gallon)
Actual Efficiency: 79.7 %
Taste Rating (50 possible points): 35.0

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.00 kg Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 67.5 %
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 16.9 %
30.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 11.3 IBU
20.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min) Hops 5.8 IBU
10.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [5.00%] (10 min) Hops 1.5 IBU
0.25 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
0.46 kg Honey (1.0 SRM) Sugar 15.6 %
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale

Estimated Original Gravity: 1.052 SG (1.038-1.054 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.052 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.013 SG (1.008-1.013 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Color: 6.0 SRM (3.0-6.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 18.5 IBU (15.0-28.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 1.6 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 5.0 % (3.8-5.5 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 5.1 %
Actual Calories: 231 cal/pint

Mash In Add 1.30 L of water at 71.9 C 65.6 C 45 min
 
V2 has been brewed and almost fermented out. I'm not as impressed with the initial taste as the last one, I don't think this benefits from extra bitterness and using fuggles hops instead of just EKG - plus I couldn't pick up any honey at all. It's not clear and still very young though, so it may improve with time (and when it's actually ready.)
 
V2 failed due to reaction with the sanitizer, so it's been dumped. Just brewed it again but using 50g High Colour Crystal Malt (200ECM) and orange blossom honey. loads of late hop additions using EKG. rinsed off the sanitizer this time. hope it's good! :)
 
Whee! V3 is a success with no off flavours despite panicking. It's not as good this bitter though, hop schedule went like this;

30gm fuggles (60min)
20gm EKG (60min)
20gm fuggles (30min)
20gm EKG (10 minutes, gradual addition to 0.)

Original recipe was better in my opinion...just so much easier to drink, and I don't think I'm a fan of fuggles to be honest! Still, 40 pints of good beer on tap...what could be better :lol:
 
I realise a lot of people are following this thread (lols!) but I'd like some advice on the next one. I'm going to settle with more honey and a lighter crystal malt, but as for the hops;

EKG on their own were great. Lovely grassy floral flavour and not very bitter. Should I go for another round of these but work on the schedule, or use some nobles as base bittering hops?
 
Why not try for some fruit or floral notes ? Citra , cascade , that sort of thing .... :hmm:

I know what you mean about fuggles , it can be a bit of a blunt instrument for delicate beers , reckons I ;)
 
Yeah my thoughts exactly on the fuggles. We just used up the rest in an old hooky clone, proper British bitter! I'll have a google and see about fruit and floral, thanks for the tip :-)
 
You dont seem to see it much these days but WGV used to be reckoned quite a good light or pale all hop .Challenger , too....but that can be a bit overpowering in blends .

Oh , and Rob - I am following this thread with interest mate , I am well impressed by your honey beer venture , mate :thumb:
 
Hi,
I am taking a trip to my local shop tomorrow to get ingredients for this.
One question: I have crushed crystal malt. Is this different to crushed amber malt?
It's cheap enough, so I could just buy some anyway, I was just wondering. Is crystal lighter or darker than amber?
 
depends on the L/ECM rating of the malt, Amber is different because it's got a different flavour. feel free to use any specality malt though! amber isn't the best, you'd be better off with a light crystal or a wheat malt.
 
Well, this was made on Sunday, exactly to recipe but with a few changes to the method e.g. less water in the boil and only added half the spray malt to the boil since the pans weren't big enough.

Anyway, the colour looks quite a bit darker than yours, and the SG was much lower - think mine was 1.042.

Do you think it just wasn't stirred enough?
It's bubbling away merrily now, will let you know how it goes. :cheers:
 
Providing you added all of the fermentables its probably a case of stirring yeah. It will look darker for now, plus there's more of it so less light travelling through - it should be nice and light when it's ready :-) good luck with it and thanks for making it :-)
 
Do you think this would benefit from dry hopping?

If so, which would be best: I have some Fuggles, some Goldings and some Challenger in the post?
 
Without a doubt, yep! I would go for Goldings. The version using just those had a fantastic hop aroma. Of course if you're brewing it with just goldings, it's not really needed, but with mixed hops I would go for it 100%!
 

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