Smallest 4-keg keezer solution?

[-Bezza-]

I have a tiny little chest freezer which I picked up for a tenner but sadly only holds two kegs. Whilst very much a first world problem, I would like something that fits 4 kegs.

I currently have a space that is about 80cm wide, which limits me on options slightly. I have seen the Logik L198CFW20 which should fit in that space but can't find any details on its internal dimensions - does anyone have experience with this freezer?

As an alternative, I could go upwards with an tall fridge but again not sure if that is viable. Tall fridges appear to be a lot more expensive too.

Any other ideas that I'm not thinking about?

If push came to shove, I could make the space a bit wider but I'd rather not do that.

 

[uDicko]

Something a bit different, I use a dry contact chiller. Kontakt 40k.

I too don't have much space so can move the chiller and kegs about to suit where I am serving. Granted the kegs take up a certain footprint anyway, but I'm not lugging a fridge about.

Depends I suppose if you are wanting 4 taps? My kontakt only has 2 lines which is fine for me.

 

[-Bezza-]

Something a bit different, I use a dry contact chiller. Kontakt 40k.

I too don't have much space so can move the chiller and kegs about to suit where I am serving. Granted the kegs take up a certain footprint anyway, but I'm not lugging a fridge about.

Depends I suppose if you are wanting 4 taps? My kontakt only has 2 lines which is fine for me.

That's pretty expensive though!!

 

[uDicko]

I agree, I forgot to add that on!

What is it you are wanting to do? is it just for serving of 4 taps?

 

[-Bezza-]

I agree, I forgot to add that on!

What is it you are wanting to do? is it just for serving of 4 taps?

Yeah, pretty much. Another key point is that I don't want to have to lug full kegs around and disturb any sediment making my beer cloudy again.

The issue is that 2 kegs just isn't enough. I found myself in the situation where I was at the end of a keg which was finished whilst we had people over, so I only had a v.strong BIPA on the other tap or a warm keg from the shed.

 

[Henders]

Finding internal dimensions, as everyone probably knows, is a right difficult task. So I take the approach that my new'ish freezer (Fridgemaster MCF139 which fits two kegs diagonally) has walls that are around 70mm thick (EDIT: I checked my actual freezer chest freezer which is about 3 years old, and same thickness walls, different make). So whatever the width of a freezer is let's take off 140mm first. So the Logik you mention above ends with an internal width about 714mm (854-140). Obviously there's the ledge too, which on my Fridgemaster is about 210mm. If ball park similar sized freezers have a similar ledge width then you're at a bottom width of ~500mm. So do the cylinder cut-out and measure thing to see how many fit. (You could do this in Paint or even PowerPoint I'm sure)

Probably ensure there's some wiggle room in case manufacturers have different insulation approaches, but I imagine they're pretty similar at the lower price ranges.

Of course, if you build a big enough collar you can have access to the full 714mm width, which is something I am considering as I umm and arr over what to make the purpose of my combined ferment/serve chamber.

I hope that helped, it's helped remind me what to look for :).

 

[Henders]

Ok so I did a drawing. Please tell me I have missed something obvious!

Summary
External dimensions for 3 kegs: >869mm
External dimensions for 4 kegs: >1009mm

Build a big enough collar and:
External dimensions for 3 kegs: >659mm
External dimensions for 4 kegs: >799mm

Yeah?

 

[-Bezza-]

Thanks! I would assume Fridgemaster and Logik freezers are going to be very similar in spec, if not the same thing branded differently.

I certainly have no issue in building up a big collar and I can build a wooden shelf into the bottom of the freezer to bring everything up to the same level as the compressor shelf and make full use of the width.

So 803mm should just about be ok for 4 kegs. I'll hold out a little longer just to see if anyone has specific experience of this.

Edit: I've just found this: Chest Freezer Specs and Layouts which suggests a freezer of a very similar size to the Logik will hold 4 kegs. We need a thread like that on here!

 

[Doive]

I have a Logik L200CFW18 keezer, which I use to hold 3 kegs, but I have seen others using this freezer with an extended height collar to hold 4 kegs. However, it's 91cm wide so won't fit your space.

 

[-Bezza-]

I have a Logik L200CFW18 keezer, which I use to hold 3 kegs, but I have seen others using this freezer with an extended height collar to hold 4 kegs. However, it's 91cm wide so won't fit your space.

That's helpful. Would you mind measuring the internal dimensions and shelf size so that I can get fudge together something on likely sizes for the smaller freezer please?

That said, I'm a bit confused as to why a freezer that is 10cm wider is only 1 litre larger in capacity.

Other options are a Beko one which is 5cm narrower but 12cm deeper or an Indesit one which is the same width but 8cm deeper.

 

[chillipickle]

My beko cf625w is 66cm and will fit x4 corny kegs.The wooden collar is 6" high, allowing 2 kegs to sit on the step at the back of the freezer.

If i remember it came from currys a few years ago so probably still available.

 

[-Bezza-]

My beko cf625w is 66cm and will fit x4 corny kegs.The wooden collar is 6" high, allowing 2 kegs to sit on the step at the back of the freezer.

If i remember it came from currys a few years ago so probably still available.

Ooh, only 66cm wide! Do you have a photo you could share please?

Looking at the Beko website, it's suggesting it's 75cm wide (which is fine) but a whopping 72.5cm deep.

 

[chillipickle]

It was 76cm sorry, excuse the untidy gas lines waiting on a manifold to arrive.

 

[-Bezza-]

It was 76cm sorry, excuse the untidy gas lines waiting on a manifold to arrive.

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Thanks - so the depth of the freezer and a slight offset in the kegs allows you to get 4 in there. Sadly discontinued but I'll have a trawl online to see if I can find something deeper than what I've been looking at so far.

p.s. that bottle looks a bit lonely. You need to put it out of its misery!

 

[chillipickle]

Mt friend dropped that bottle round the weekend, needs a couple of weeks sitting there lonely before it gets dispatched :)

 

[-Bezza-]

Mt friend dropped that bottle round the weekend, needs a couple of weeks sitting there lonely before it gets dispatched :)

Sorry, can I just check - how deep is the internal space of that freezer?

Just looking at Henders' post above, the dimensions would suggest that there's actually plenty of space to get two kegs without offsetting. That's based on 725 deep - 140mm for wall = 585mm. Two kegs is 460mm ish.

 

[chillipickle]

Can easily fit 4 kegs in there and quite possibly the 6.35kg co2 gas bottle in there as well.

 

[Henders]

Ah I like that! I didn't realise in my brief looking about that there are deeper (front to back) freezers than the standard two I have which align roughly to the metric kitchen unit depths. Gives more options, and the ledge at the back makes it nicer in my head too.

 

[Michael Burnley]

Have you thought about a tall fridge? I've managed to get 3 cornies and the gas bottle in mine, also you could make a saving by not using temp control (eg inkbird) I turn mine to a low ish stat setting and it keeps it nicely at around 10 C

 

[-Bezza-]

Have you thought about a tall fridge? I've managed to get 3 cornies and the gas bottle in mine, also you could make a saving by not using temp control (eg inkbird) I turn mine to a low ish stat setting and it keeps it nicely at around 10 C

It was an idea but I was less sure that I would be able to get 4 kegs in there, and you're saying possibly only 3. Given tall fridges seem to be more expensive, it would be a case of more money for fewer kegs. I also already have an inkbird connected up to my existing keezer so that's not a concern.

I think it's a case of getting down to Curry's with a tape measure!