best yeast for a fake lager

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    so im doing a this is lager ag clone but want to avoid using a lager yeast. i was thinking us-05. would this do or has anyone got a better sugestion

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    I've looked into this A LOT as I dont have a brew fridge. I have a brew bag where I can get temps down to about 14C/15C

    Which yeast you go for depends on what temps you can get down. If you can only get down to about 18C-20C use a steam beer yeast. MJ California Lager yeast is the only dried version but of course there are liquid versions. It's quite clean and crisp but I've read steam beer yeasts have a slight fruityness to them (I cant tell as my palate isn't refined enough)

    If you can get down to 14C use Nottingham. I've read it's really clean at these temps and makes for a great pseudo lager. I'll be trying this with my next pseudo lager

    You can actaully use lager yeast at ale temps but their not as clean at these temps. I've never tried it as I dont want to stink my flat out with sulpher compounds

    Basically the lower you can get the temp the better as whatever yeast you use will be cleaner. Except strangely enough US-05 which I've read give off peachy esters when fermented cold
     
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    why do you want to avoid using a lager yeast ???????????? Use a saf 23 lager yeast and leave it in the coldest place in your house
     
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    thanks il look into the saf 23 lager and the nottingham. just trying to get the malt and hops from the same place to save on postage
     
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    What hops are you going to use
     
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    its actually saflager 23 a german bottom feeding yeast. An all round lager yeast, Nottingham yeast (wilko) (just used this along with the kit yeast on a Woodfords Wherry) is an ale yeast. one will make lager ,one will make lager beer with lager ingredients and ale yeast.
     
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    I've just put the same kit through GEB's custom grain kit and it comes out at £7.16 (you just need to double check the AA% of the hops to make sure you dont need more for the GEB kit than you do for the MM kit
     
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    i looked at GEB but thay didnt have 1 of the hops in the kit. il look again in the morning. thanks @myqul
     
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    Nottingham @ 14c is as close as you will get without using proper lager strains.

    It *must* be kept at a solid 14c though ... and if you have the equipment to be able to do that, you might as well use a proper lager strain. Yes, it takes longer, but is much better.
     
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    The hops in the malt miller kit are columbus, saaz and hallertau mittelfrauh? GEB have those three
     
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    i did not see that. the diy dog says columbus saaz and Hersbrucker. good spot there. is hallertau mittelfrauh a good sub for Hersbrucker?
     
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    Hallertau is a German helles lager hop and very nice indeed, Saaz is a Czech lager hop, it depends on what style your trying to do
     
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    They combine very well though both being noble hops. The pub I go to has Four Pure pils on tap which has mittelfruh and saaz in it. It's lovely. I'm going to order some mittelfuh and saaz the next time I make an order
     
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    It'll work as theyre both varients of the hallertau hop but mittelfruh and herbrucker have different flavours from what I've read
     
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    im trying to clone brewdogs this is lager
     

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