First AG Brew - Brewfist Caterpillar

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  1. Sep 13, 2019 #1

    ClarenceBoddicker

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    Morning all, this weekend I will break out the GF connect for the first time for my first foray into AG. My hops and grains are on the way and I chose this recipe from the book Craft Brew because it 'seems' fairly simple and I happen to have 100g of Motueka hops in the fridge.

    The recipe is as follows but there is no boil time...

    3.96kg pale ale malt
    500g rye malt
    300g caramalt
    100g crystal malt
    100g wheat malt

    Hops motueka 30g 10 mins, 30g whirlpool, 30g dry hop
    Columbus 8g 10 mins, 8g whirlpool, 15g dry hop

    Yeast is Danstar Nottingham Ale

    Mash 66c 45 mins 78c 5 mins and ferment @ 20c

    I suppose my question is how long to boil at what temp, and I guess the first hop additions are 10 mins into boil rather than boil for 10 mins. Any other advice of course is welcome!

    OG 1.055 FG 1.011 5.8% 20L

    Cheers!
     
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    I boil for 90 minutes, temperature is boiling, the hop additions do not seem to add up, my bittering hops go in at 60 mins, what is the IBU you end up with?
     
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    Boil for 60 minutes, add the first hop addition at the last ten minutes of that boil.
     
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    I might have found some clone threads on other forums and websites so there is experience out there. Ranges from 39 to 40 IBU.
     
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    Hi I would say you won't get anywere near 39-40 ibu's with a 10 min boil which the recipe suggests
     
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    Just put this recipe in beer mate I had to use magnum hops the ibu came in at 22.1 ibu's with a 10 minute boil
     
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    I have seen old recipes written what seems to be a**e about face, but knowing the length of the boil is important. Some of those boils were 2 hrs first charge could be 10 mins in to a 2 hour boil.
    Could you not write out the recipe as is.
     
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    That's just it, the recipe lists the hops like this: 30g/1.06oz Motueka, 10 mins
    8g/0.28oz Columbus, 10 mins
    So not very helpful, it's more of a list of ingredients than an actual recipe.
     
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    Have you also accounted for the IBUs from the 38g at whirlpool? If not that would push the IBUs up past 35-40 with a 20+ minute whirlpool.

    They're using a technique often described as hop bursting, where little to no bittering addition is being used, gaining all the IBUs from late additions.

    As an aside, a more specific recipe wouldn't be much use as every brewing system is different.
     
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    This is all very interesting and good to see different ideas. It sounds like a beer that I'd like ao will do some similar recipe research to decide when to add the first hops and see what happens. Maybe the 10 minutes means as 10 minutes into a 60 min boil as Foxy alluded to.
     
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    Cheers Sadfield I have just learned summat new great hobby this brewing acheers.
     
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    Sadfield is right, don't know why I never thought of it before,especially as I have a Summer Rye cold crashing at the moment. The hops I used were Motueka, only one charge and that was at flame out, I think the recipe called for 60 gram and I used 80 gram let it sit for 20 to 30 minutes then rapidly cool.
    Gordon Strong guesses the IBU at 25 for the 60 gram.
    So boil at whatever length, as I said I prefer 90 min boils, a lot of people will go for 60 and put the hops in as per recipe.
     
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    Picked this up from Brewers Friend:
    Hops
    Amount Variety AA Use Time
    30 g Motueka 7 Boil 60 min
    8 g Columbus 15 Boil 10 min
    30 g Motueka 7 Boil 0 min
    8 g Columbus 15 Boil 0 min
    30 g Motueka 7 Dry Hop 5 days
    15 g Columbus 15 Dry Hop 5 days
     

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