Just wondered what you all think of people basically working for an app on a self employed basis and no rights to minimum wage, sick or holiday pay but they can work when they want as hard as they want and get paid based on how much they do. I have never done it and likely never will and don't even know anyone who has. I watched a few you tube videos and heres a very brief summary. Deliveroo New guy (in London) tries it for a week averages just under £5 an hour mainly low because of off peak times getting no orders for sometimes over an hour, I get the impression if he did another week knowing more where and when to work he would get over £10 an hour easily. Experienced guy in Leeds gets £18-20 an hour no problem and even goes to a new area to try it and averages over £16 an hour despite taking nearly an hour off to go home and change bikes Amazon delivery Same new guy tries it for a week gets about £15 an hour but down to £11 after paying for fuel and a bit to allow for car ware but based on the hours amazon says it should take but he got several 4 hour shifts that took under 2 hours 1 under 1 1/2 hours so for the actual hours he did the pay was over £20 an hour From what I can tell deliveroo currently offer the option of getting £7 an hour plus £1 per delivery or getting paid per delivery only at between £2.62 and over £5.50 per delivery. So on the plus side You can work when you want and as hard as you want and get more for working harder Its the system that gives you the biggest cut of what the company gets for your work You can take time off whenever you want and work extra shifts whenever you want You can get around 3 times more than other unskilled jobs and likely double what a restaurant pays delivery drivers (or alot less) You have an option to guarantee at least £7 an hour even if you do nothing except hang around waiting On the down side You have no job security No paid holiday or sick pay You could work for hours for bellow minimum wage or even nothing (unless you select the £7 an hour option) You can easily get your bike stolen You can loose money waiting for food to be cooked It will take time working for a low wage until you work out how to get the best from it Neutral You don't have to do it you can just get a different job if you need the security on an employment contract. I could keep typing for ages but its not that interesting I just wondered what you think of this morally and legally, is it a great way for people to get a good share of what there work is worth or an excuse for companies to dodge employment responsibilities and would your opinion change if it was just an app with no company behind it so riders got paid the entire delivery fee?