Vandalay
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in case o budget restriction here is my supercheap foodgrade 2,5ltr minikeg
and could be cheaper without all those stainless parts
and could be cheaper without all those stainless parts
Beer Engine Set Up Help
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For bag in a box/polypin dispense, I use this made from John Guest fittings. The Y piece and two valves allow for the beer line to be shut off and the short hose pushed into a 5 litre water bottle to allow the pump to be pulled through, wasting as little beer as possible.
I dont know if you've seen them or whether they're helpful to you. There are couple of youtube videos of people setting up beer engines to dispense from bag-in-box containers:
Homebrew Griffo
The Craft Beer Channel
I'm sure I've seen another one but can't remember/find it
peebee
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@carchie86: I've seen the "Homebrew Griffo" video (@Thinbo's post) before, but what I hadn't seen was his "part 2" which pretty much goes over what I'd been saying about "demand valves" instead of one-way (check) valves and using Corny kegs, as well as demonstrating what can happen with only a one-way valve. He describes the "Vitop" connector and connects it to 3/8" beer-line with a length of more flexible tubing. The "missing link" in what I've been saying! Be careful though; he recommends silicon tubing which will allow your beer to oxidise. I'd recommend you use PVC tubing instead.
The "Craft Beer Channel" video is a great example of bags of enthusiasm! But it covers bags of beer (Vitop) too.
The "Craft Beer Channel" video is a great example of bags of enthusiasm! But it covers bags of beer (Vitop) too.
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Aye @foxy right. I use food grade PVC dip in boiling water. Have you rebuilt it? The anti drain back velves may need a scrub and look for beerstone staining in the cylinder. I use the same brewery caustic/PAA to clean with a purple line clean every so often. Nice looking engine m8
All the bits and pieces arrived for my pump and I am finally up and running with it working! @Druncan I have no idea what the drain back valves are but the whole thing is a bit grubby so they probably do need a clean if you have any instructions. Do you have any tips on cleaning the cylinder as well?
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Do you think a soft spile could fit in the pressure release valve hole, if the valve was unscrewed and set aside whilst serving?
peebee
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You are asking me, so you've probably missed my take on "spiles"? To summarise: If you haven't any spiles don't get any! If you have spiles, you might be able to chop them up for toothpicks.
For a "soft spile" just put cottonwool in to a disconnect. For a "hard spile" remove the disconnect (the "poppet" on the post seals the keg). A keg treated this way must be consumed within 2-3 days, be "hard spiled" between sessions (remove disconnect to retain remaining CO2 condition) and must not be moved (or it will oxidise).
Better, don't worry about spiles and maintain a blanket of CO2. For this you will need a small CO2 cylinder ("Sodastream"?), a small "primary" regulator to drop the cylinder pressure (about 55-60BAR) down to 3-5BAR, and a LPG regulator to drop the 3-5BAR down to 150milli-BAR or less. It is virtually impossible to manually control such low pressures. The LPG regulator maintains suitable CO2 levels for weeks on end - the beer starts tasting old and tired before it can lose CO2 condition.
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