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The UN's top legal body has now heard two days of powerful legal argument on the "crime of all crimes": genocide.

It is now for the judges at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to decide whether Israel, in its war in Gaza, is guilty of an attempt to "destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part," as defined by the 1948 Convention on Genocide.
There could hardly be a more weighty matter.
Both sides have played heavily on the strong emotions swirling around the conflict that erupted on 7 October last year.
Around 1,300 people - most of them civilians - were killed and about 240 others were taken hostage during the Hamas attack on southern Israel.
More than 23,350 people have been killed - mostly children and women - during Israeli retaliatory attacks on Gaza, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
The case, brought to the ICJ by South Africa, included a litany of alleged Israeli offences, from the indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians to the wholesale destruction of Gaza's infrastructure.
"This killing is nothing short of destruction of Palestinian life," said one of South Africa's lawyers, Adila Hassin.
Israel's war in Gaza could not be allowed to continue, the South African team argued.
"Entire multi-generational families will be obliterated," Irish barrister Blinne Ní Ghrálaigh warned, "and yet more Palestinian children will become WCNSF - Wounded Child No Surviving Family - the terrible new acronym borne out of Israel's genocidal assault."

But on Friday morning Israel hit back, with a mixture of its own emotion and a forensic assault on the South African case.
Images of 132 missing Israelis - most of them still being held hostage in Gaza - were shown to the court.
"Is there a reason these people on your screen are unworthy of protection," Tal Becker, a hugely experienced legal adviser at Israel's Foreign Ministry, asked the court.
Mr Becker and his colleagues were scathing about South Africa's submission, arguing that if anyone was guilty of genocide, it was Hamas.
"Under the guise of the allegation against Israel of genocide," Mr Becker said, "this court is asked to call for an end to operations against the ongoing attacks of an organisation that pursues an actual genocidal agenda".
South Africa, the Israelis said, is guilty of supporting Hamas, a group designated as a terrorist organisation by 41 countries, including the US, EU and UK.

During his speech, Professor Malcolm Shaw briefly seemed to imply that the very country bringing this case against Israel was itself complicit.
"South Africa has given succour and support to Hamas, at least," he said.
It will probably take the ICJ several years to reach its verdict on the charge of genocide.
The South Africans must know there's a legal mountain to climb to prove their case.
Genocide is notoriously difficult to prove. There needs to be compelling evidence of intent by those actually in charge of Israel's military campaign in Gaza, as well as a pattern of behaviour by the Israel Defense Forces that cannot reasonably be explained as anything other than genocidal.
Remember: this is only about genocide, not whether war crimes have been committed in Gaza, or even whether Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing, as some allege.
It's one thing to be horrified, even enraged, by countless images of the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians.
It's quite another to conclude that the killing of 1% of the Gazan population, sobering though that number is, represents an Israeli effort to destroy the Palestinian people, "in whole or in part".
But for Israel, which may feel it's on safe ground when it comes to the "crime of all crimes", there's a more immediate concern.
South Africa has appealed to the ICJ to issue nine "provisional measures", designed, in the words of South Africa's 84-page submission, "to protect against further, severe and irreparable harm to the rights of the Palestinian people".
The first of these calls on Israel to "immediately suspend its military operation in and against Gaza".
If obeyed, it would have the effect of bringing Israel's military campaign to a halt.
This could happen within weeks, long before Israel feels it has achieved its military objective of utterly destroying Hamas as a political and military force in Gaza.
For this reason, its lawyers attempted to demolish South Africa's case for "provisional measures", arguing that they had no legal basis and would tie Israel's hands but leave Hamas free to act.
Israel doesn't like the ICJ, and feels that the UN as a whole is inherently biased against the Jewish state.
But at a time when international pressure is mounting on Israel to put an end to the huge level of violence in Gaza, it knows that if the court agrees to issue provisional measures, that pressure will only increase.
It's prepared to ignore the court if it feels it has to (and the ICJ has no powers of enforcement), but it would much prefer to win the legal argument.
Nothing on the BBC website or the usual English trash newspaper's. Funny that, but if one of the royal family farts it's front page news. Over 12,000 children murdered, helped by the US and English government.
 
Can anyone on here verify for me what is going on in Ireland Germany Holland France Belgium, i am seeing lots of videos not on main stream news channels about protests about mass migration there is nothing on the BBC or other main stream news outlets i don't know what to believe
 
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has said a "ceasefire that lasts" must "happen now" in the Israel-Gaza conflict.
He was speaking at a Scottish Labour conference in Glasgow, a day after it passed a motion calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
On Wednesday, there will be a SNP-led vote in the Commons on an immediate ceasefire, three months after 56 Labour MPs backed a previous SNP motion.
The situation puts Sir Keir under fresh pressure over his stance on the crisis.
Speaking to delegates on Sunday, Sir Keir said everyone wanted an end to the fighting, "not just for now, not just for a pause, but permanently".
"A ceasefire that lasts. This is what must happen now. The fighting must stop now."
But the Labour leader stopped short of using the word "immediate" which is what the SNP is calling for in terms of a ceasefire announcement.
Earlier, David Lammy said Labour would be scrutinising the SNP motion ahead of the vote, but he said that any proposal must include a permanent solution to stop the conflict.
Speaking on BBC One's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, he said he was not convinced the proposed wording posted online gave details of a "sustainable" ceasefire - but said he had not seen the full motion.
He also warned parliamentary votes in the UK "will not bring about a ceasefire".
Mr Lammy said an agreement would need to come from Hamas, the Israeli government and "partners for peace saying the fighting must now stop".
On Saturday, Anas Sarwar - the leader of the party in Scotland - described the SNP motion as "perfectly reasonable", after Scottish Labour had voted at its conference in favour of backing an "immediate" ceasefire.
But the UK Labour Party stance has consistently been that any ceasefire must be sustainable - and that was why. there was a clear split in the party in the vote in November.
Of the 56 Labour MPs who voted with the SNP motion then, 10 were frontbenchers who left their shadow ministerial positions as a result of taking a position at odds with the party leadership.

Open letter from SNP

The Gaza conflict was debated during the second day of the Scottish Labour conference in Glasgow. The ceasefire motion was passed unopposed by delegates.
It urges an end to rocket fire into and out of Gaza, the unconditional release of hostages taken by Hamas, the restoration of essential supplies and a pathway to peace.
The SNP's Westminster leader, Stephen Flynn, has written an open letter to MPs to back his party's opposition day motion calling "for an immediate ceasefire" in Gaza.
"It's essential that the UK changes course now and backs an immediate ceasefire without further delay," he said.
If passed, the motion is not binding on the government. Instead, they typically expressopposition MPs' position on a particular issue.
Mr Sarwar said there was no "distance" between Scottish Labour's position and Sir Keir - despite the Labour leader failing to use the term "immediate ceasefire" in his speech.
Speaking to the BBC, Mr Sarwar said: "The entire UK Labour party want to see the violence stop right now, we want to see a ceasefire."
Mr Sarwar said Labour had been in touch with the SNP's whips about the wording of the ceasefire motion that will be voted on this Wednesday. However, the SNP's chief whip, Owen Thompson, denied there had been any contact.
If there is a split in opinion in the party, then Labour's two Scottish MPs - Michael Shanks and Ian Murray - will have to decide whether to follow the views expressed in the Scottish Labour motion and therefore side with the SNP.
Both MPs abstained in the November vote.

BBC News
 
Tis worrying.

Not sure how much of an escalation this will be though, Israel will bomb a few places in Iran tomorrow, Hezbollah will do something too i guess.
 
Not sure why they announced it. Surely part of war is the surprise attack. Drones will be shot down. Ruined my weekend though. Financial markets have taken a hit.
 
Tis worrying.

Not sure how much of an escalation this will be though, Israel will bomb a few places in Iran tomorrow, Hezbollah will do something too i guess.
Worrying is an understatement, I seen the British government ruled in favour to continue arms sales to Israel. Which implicates them in war crime's.
 
looking at the globe I can't see a path from IRAN to Israel without flying over another countries airspace not allied to IRAN and 300 or so weapons flying in a non-allied countries air-space is not going to improve relationships with those countries.
 
British fighter jets have been deployed to shoot down drones fired at Israel from Iran.

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In a statement, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) said the Royal Air Force (RAF) will repel "any airborne attacks within range" of operations in the region.
It is understood RAF jets have flown over Iraq and Syria but not Israel.
PM Rishi Sunak condemned Iran's "reckless attack", pledging the UK would "continue to stand up for Israel's security".
Iran launched dozens of aerial drones and cruise missiles at Israel overnight on Saturday and into Sunday, in a widely anticipated and unprecedented retaliatory attack.
The Israeli military said it had intercepted the majority of the attacks - mostly outside of Israel's airspace - with the help of other countries.
The US was one of those allies, with President Joe Biden confirming the US military helped Israel shoot down "nearly all" of Iran's drones and missiles.
Jordan also assisted in taking out some Iranian drones, according security sources cited by the Reuters news agency.
The MoD has not said how many RAF Typhoons were airborne over Syrian and Iraqi airspace, nor confirmed whether they successfully shot down any targets.
Its statement made clear that RAF aircraft would intercept any attacks within the areas it already operates in as part of the Operation Shader mission against the Islamic State group.
Defence Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed the move on X, formerly known as Twitter, and said that he "strongly condemned the senseless airborne attack" by Iran.
Mr Sunak also responded to Iran, adding that the "strikes risk inflaming tensions and destabilising the region".
"Iran has once again demonstrated that it is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard," the prime minister said.
He went on pledge the UK's continued support for the security of Israel and the UK's other allies in the region - including Jordan and Iraq.
Health Secretary Victoria Atkins told the BBC's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg programme that she was "not in a position to confirm or deny" whether British jets shot down Iranian drones.
When asked whether Cabinet was consulted before jets were deployed, she said the "circle of knowledge" had to be "very, very tight".
Iran's attacks come after Tehran vowed to retaliate over a strike on its consulate in Syria on 1 April, which killed seven IRGC officers, including a top commander.
The Iranian government has accused Israel of carrying out that attack, but Israel has neither confirmed nor denied it.
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said the party supported all measures "designed to restore calm" and prevent a wider regional war.
In a statement, he condemned Iran's "decision to subject Israelis to these unacceptable attacks".
"The international community has been united in urging restraint and we regret that yet again Iran has chosen a different, dangerous path," Mr Starmer added.
Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper told the BBC that Labour wanted to hear from the prime minister in Parliament on Monday because of the "seriousness" and "real concerns about potential escalation".
Conservative MP Tobias Ellwood, who chaired the Commons Defence Select Committee until his resignation over comments made about Taliban-rule in Afghanistan, told BBC Breakfast: "When it comes to a state-on-state attack, it's very clear that Britain will stand with Israel to defend its skies and soil."
But he said allies would be encouraging Israel "to take stock, to think carefully before responding otherwise this could tie the Middle East up into a wider regional war that would invariably include Israel's ally the United States".

BBC News
 
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BBC NEWS - Posted at 11:51

Russia calls for all sides to 'show restraint'​

Russia is calling for all parties to "show restraint" and "expressed concern" over further escalation after Iran launched missiles and drones at Israel overnight.
"We are counting on the regional states to solve the existing problems with political and diplomatic means," the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
Moscow added that it has warned numerous times that the UN Security Council was unable to "adequately" respond to a strike on an Iranian consulate in Syria, which killed seven officers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including top commanders.
It comes after the United States, Britain and France opposed a Russian-drafted UN Security Council statement that would have condemned an attack on Iran's embassy compound in Syria.
Iran accused Israel of carrying out that attack, but Israel has said it doesn't comment on foreign reports.
 
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BBC NEWS - Posted at 11:51

Russia calls for all sides to 'show restraint'​

Russia is calling for all parties to "show restraint" and "expressed concern" over further escalation after Iran launched missiles and drones at Israel overnight.
"We are counting on the regional states to solve the existing problems with political and diplomatic means," the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
Moscow added that it has warned numerous times that the UN Security Council was unable to "adequately" respond to a strike on an Iranian consulate in Syria, which killed seven officers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including top commanders.
It comes after the United States, Britain and France opposed a Russian-drafted UN Security Council statement that would have condemned an attack on Iran's embassy compound in Syria.
Iran accused Israel of carrying out that attack, but Israel has said it doesn't comment on foreign reports.
Thats a bit rich from Putin, he wants the NATO forces to be tied up in the middle east so he can crush Ukraine
 
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BBC NEWS - Posted at 11:51

Russia calls for all sides to 'show restraint'​

Russia is calling for all parties to "show restraint" and "expressed concern" over further escalation after Iran launched missiles and drones at Israel overnight.
"We are counting on the regional states to solve the existing problems with political and diplomatic means," the foreign ministry has said in a statement.
Moscow added that it has warned numerous times that the UN Security Council was unable to "adequately" respond to a strike on an Iranian consulate in Syria, which killed seven officers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, including top commanders.
It comes after the United States, Britain and France opposed a Russian-drafted UN Security Council statement that would have condemned an attack on Iran's embassy compound in Syria.
Iran accused Israel of carrying out that attack, but Israel has said it doesn't comment on foreign reports.

Those 300 drones were probably meant for Kiev.
 

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