using s30 cylinder tonpurge bottling bucket?

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    Hello.

    I currently have a Hambleton Bard s30 co2 cylinder that's pretty full, as the king keg I bought it for doesn't hold any pressure (believe me, I've tried everything with the keg!).

    As I'm happy bottling and have purchased a bottling bucket, I thought it might be a good idea to spray some co2 in the bottling bucket, to create a protective layer over the beer as it's transferred... as co2 is heavier than air, it should stay put enough to do this.

    Might anybody know of an attachment/technique for safely releasing a short burst of co2 into the bucket before siphoning? I thought of using the lid off the king keg, but think that might be a recipe for freeze burns and a world of misery!

    I'm probably overthinking this, but thought it might be something good to try for any beers that are particularly sensitive to oxidisation (neipas seem to be one of these from what I've read)

    Any help/suggestions will be much appreciated!
     
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    It won't.
     
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    Not permanently, no. but I think I'd have enough time to fill the bucket with the lid loosely attached and carefully seal it. Even at room temperature, co2 will stay below the air unless it is mixed by agitation.

    Think of dry ice and how the vapour moves though a room. Those fancy cocktails they do with it in, the co2 sinks after vaporising out of the liquid. The hazers they use at concerts are warmed glycerin, which is why that stuff rises.

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    If you seal the lid eventually the flow through your bottling wand will stop.
     
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    yes, I know. I thought of using an airlock on the lid, but so long as there's enough venting to allow air to drift in slowly, there shouldn't be much agitation and the c02 should stay pooled on the floor (which will be the decreasing level of beer). Sorry if I wasn't clear by what I meant by carefully seal it
     
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    Just a thought just_gary, why not use your King Keg as a bottling bucket? Put your priming solution in the King Keg. Transfer your beer from the FV to the KK. Give the KK a burst of CO2 before tightening the lid down. Apply a squirt of CO2 to pressurise the KK and dispense from the tap via a tube into your bottles. Sounds a bit mad I know but that way you can maintain CO2 over your beer during bottling.
     
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    You would have to put enough co2 in to effectively "dispense" the beer by doing that as,as said,fitting a tight lid will stop the flow eventually.
     
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    I really like this idea. Thanks!

    it wouldn't take all that much to modify the keg. shame mine is a top tap though... but if I can regulate the pressure by loosening/tightening the lid (or just leaving it, as it doesn't hold pressure for long!) then I should be able to get a smooth pour into the bottles.
     
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    the idea with bottling bucket would not be for it to be completely sealed, as I said before, as the co2 'should' form a blanket over the beer as it's dispensed if the venting into the bucket is gradual/not agitated

    edited due to terrible phone autocorrect nightmares!
     
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    I have a top tap KK and it will dispense right to the bottom using the internal float/tubing.
    My bottling straw has it's own tap so might need a way to attach bottling straw tubing to the KK tap so it doesn't blow off. You can then leave the KK tap fully open during bottling. Good luck!
     
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