What juices for WOW

[Hellz Bellz]

So I have ordered my yeast etc and dusted off my DJs. I went to the supermarket today and had a look at the juices. I didn't know what to get. Some said 100% from concentrate (not many by the way). Others said 12% of this and 5% of that. What should I look for or are all carton fruit juices ok?

I saw a Welch's apple, grade and pear which looked interesting, but I looked at the back and it read:

Water, Grape juice from concentrate (12%)
Sugar, Pear juice from concentrate (5%)
Apple juice from concentrate (3%)
Malic acid, vitamin C, Flavouring.

Is that any good?

Thanks

 

[Roddy]

you want 100% from concentrate grape juice and preferably the same of the other juice you use...

asda have a great set of juices, for 3 for £3 (litre bottles)

rule of thumb is equal quantities of grape and the other juice you use

I made a great tasting wow with asda rgj and asda tropical juice, pretty good it was too

I'll likely have put a thread in Brewdays about it !

I would avoid the welches stuff you mentioned, that's mostly water

I have a couple of files on the tropical one I made...

See files call Tropical...
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B9214IswqPyMM2M1MzB4RUlabWM/edit

bottles

 

[Chippy_Tea]

As Roddy says 100% juice is best and using equal amounts of grape juice to other juice works best, if you decided to use the less than 50% juice use two cartons to one of grape juice.

 

[Roddy]

One other thing to add, that I've found is that when using pulpy juice (like trpoical/grapefruit etc..), the amount of **** that sinks to the bottom (and floats on the top) is massive, compared with using apple juice (in addition to grape)

This is the Grapefruit WOW I did, versus the Apple one, I lost loads of volume with the grapefruit !

 

[Hellz Bellz]

Cheers. So as a rule stick to 100% juice from concentrate. Does it have to contain grape? I would like to do a white but cannot get wgj anywhere.

 

[Roddy]

you really want equal parts 100% grape and 100% other juice

Waitrose are the only place Iknow that sells WGJ now

ie when I make up a 25l batch I use 6ltrs of the asda rgj and 6ltrs of another 100% juice (eg asda apple or tropical), made up to 25l with water, and other bits and bobs (sugar etc..) plenty recipes in the brewdays forum

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Cheers. So as a rule stick to 100% juice from concentrate.

It makes no difference if it is from concentrate or not.

If you use 100% juice it saves money, if you can only find 50% or less juice double up.

If you cannot get white grape juice try red grape juice with a litre of apple juice, it makes a great tasting Rose type wine, it doesnt make red wine and doesn't taste like red wine as some members have thought in the past.

 

[Hellz Bellz]

Thanks for the help. Does it need grape juice for taste reasons or is it so it can be called a wine. The original WOW doesn't contain grape.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Thanks for the help. Does it need grape juice for taste reasons or is it so it can be called a wine. The original WOW doesn't contain grape.

The quote below is from the first post in the wurzels orange wine thread here - http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=49462

In the video below he uses 1 litre of orange juice and 1 litre of white grape juice, this is fine if both juices are 100%, supermarket Pomegranate, cranberry and many other juices are less than 50% so you need to add two of these to one of grape juice per Demijohn (DJ).

 

[jam]

The only white grape I can find is with peach or other flavours and they are less than 50% so would two of those be ok to go with orange or apple juice?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

No it'll be too thin, I have given up on WGJ as its so hit and miss finding it and now make everything with RGJ and another juice (not orange type)

 

[jam]

I've got a tropical juice there could I do that with an apple juice?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

You can put whatever juice you like with another, i prefer to use grape juice with another but that's just how i like it, some members make ribena and some apple wine, some don't bother with grape juice there are no rules, as long as you take a note of the sugar in the cartons then subtract it from 1100g you will know how much table sugar to add for 13% (ish).

 

[jam]

My pineapple and apple is been going for 14 days now but seems to have a lot of bits floating about in it will they drop to bottom or should I filter it when I rack off?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I found this with anything orange based, just rack as normal, a little will get through as the surface reaches the sediment trap of the syphion but it'll be so little it'll make no odds.

 

[Hellz Bellz]

Ok I have finally got it on after much deliberation. I have gone for:
Pineapple and apple, currently bubbling like mad.
Apple, going steady.
Apple and grapefruit, buzzing.
Apple and pomegranate, going steady. I have doubled the apple as the pomegranate was a bit week.

That's it for now. I will do an update at some point.

 

[jam]

My pineapple and apple bubbled like mad to

 

[Hellz Bellz]

Just topped up my Apple with water. It is the only one not going mental. I imagine I will lose some volume on the others but as long as they are tasty.

 

[Hellz Bellz]

The only white grape I can find is with peach or other flavours and they are less than 50% so would two of those be ok to go with orange or apple juice?

Jam. I would chuck two apple in with that wgj and peach. The way I figure is if you are going to top up with water you might as well top up with watery wgj and peach. I might be wrong though. :hmm:

 

[Vinotinto]

as long as you take a note of the sugar in the cartons then subtract it from 1100g you will know how much table sugar to add for 13% (ish) .

Blimey, first time I have ever seen this explained in this way. How easy is that as a guide?