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Ok, not a groupie as in hanging around backstage at a concert. But a woman willing to let men of power do things to get ahead.

Again, do you deny these women exist?
I don’t deny these women exist, but I deny that the actress he was referring to is one.
 
How do you know that though?

You werent there. I wasnt there.

The man making the quote was though.
Whether she is or she isn’t or whether there are women like that is pretty irrelevant to be honest, considering Trump was saying all of these things as a married man.
 
Whether she is or she isn’t or whether there are women like that is pretty irrelevant to be honest, considering Trump was saying all of these things as a married man.
Him being married? What has that got to do with what he said. Married or not there are those type of women who do what he said. It is entirely relevant that the type of people he is talking about exist. It is the whole point of what we are talkimg about. So i think we are losing track here.
 
Him being married? What has that got to do with what he said. Married or not there are those type of women who do what he said. So i think we are losing track here.
What does him being married got to do with it?

Even taking the quote in the context you are wanting to interpret it as, he’s saying he can’t resist cheating on his wife with groupies
“I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.

That’s not hypothetical. Notice how he’s not saying “I would just start kissing them”, he’s saying “I just start kissing them”.
 
What does him being married got to do with it?

Even taking the quote in the context you are wanting to interpret it as, he’s saying he can’t resist cheating on his wife with groupies
“I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful - I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.
Him cheating on his wife isnt what we are talking about though. We are talking about "that" quote.

I agree cheating on a spouse is pretty scumbaggy but it doesnt make them a monster.
 
Him cheating on his wife isnt what we are talking about though. We are talking about "that" quote.

I agree cheating on a spouse is pretty scumbaggy but it doesnt make them a monster.
:?:We are talking about his attitude to women - that quote was just an example that was given that you have jumped on.

Cheating on your wife is completely relevant to what we are talking about because it gives an example of his attitude to women.
 
:?:We are talking about his attitude to women - that quote was just an example that was given that you have jumped on.

Cheating on your wife is completely relevant to what we are talking about.
Yes we are. And that quote was flagged up way back in the thread. Thats what i was talking about. The p*ssy grabbing bit. Before we went off at tangents, not led by me.

Anyway, because the man cheats on his wife (again, dont agree with that), doesnt mean he has an appalling opinion on women, does it?
Appalling opinion of his wife, yes. Women in general, no.
 
Yes we are. And that quote was flagged up way back in the thread. Thats what i was talking about. The p*ssy grabbing bit. Before we went off at tangents, not led by me.

Anyway, because the man cheats on his wife (again, dont agree with that), doesnt mean he has an appalling opinion on women, does it?
Appalling opinion of his wife, yes. Women in general, no.
No, but having a lengthy Wikipedia entry on your sexual misconduct means you almost certainly DO have an appalling attitude to women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
 
Believing Wikipedia is worse than believing red top tabloids.
Not really, Wikipedia gets a bad rap on reliability. If I'd quoted an article that had no referencing / citation then I'd accept your criticism. This article cites 180 different external sources. If only 10% is accurate Trump is still a sex pest - if you're happy to defend that though...
 
Not really, Wikipedia gets a bad rap on reliability. If I'd quoted an article that had no referencing / citation then I'd accept your criticism. This article cites 180 different external sources. If only 10% is accurate Trump is still a sex pest - if you're happy to defend that though...
Im not defending anything. Im saying wikipedia is a terrible source of information. And it is.

Also insinuations are a terrible way to try and gain the advantage in a debate.
 
Im not defending anything. Im saying wikipedia is a terrible source of information. And it is.

Also insinuations are a terrible way to try and gain the advantage in a debate.
Wikipedia is not a terrible source of information. If I were putting together an academic paper I certainly wouldn't reference it, I'd reference the original sources. As an aggregator of links to original material though it's excellent, and is far more accurate than it's given credit for.

I don't think I'm insinuating anything, apologies if that's how it came across. You are defending someone who has repeatedly been accused of sex crimes, and who has paid off at least one of his accusers.
 
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