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If they don’t disappear you, it’s because they don’t think you are a threat.
 
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I don't think they will do anything now its all going **** up for Putin.


Russia's state TV hit by stream of resignations

When Marina Ovsyannikova burst into Russian living rooms on Monday's nightly news, denouncing the war in Ukraine and propaganda around it, her protest highlighted a quiet but steady stream of resignations from Russia's tightly controlled state-run TV.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has thanked her, appealing to anyone working for what he calls Russia's propaganda system to resign. Any journalist working in what he calls the fourth branch of power risks sanctions and an international tribunal for "justifying war crimes", he warns.
Some of Russian President Vladimir Putin's biggest cheerleaders on state-run TV have already faced sanctions, including Vladimir Solovyov who presents a talk show on Russia's biggest channel Rossiya-1, and Margarita Simonyan who has accused anyone ashamed of being Russian at this point as not really being Russian.
Russia's state-run channels are required to toe the Kremlin line, so who has quit in response to the war?
Hours after Marina Ovsyannikova's on-screen protest, three resignations came to light.

Channel One colleague Zhanna Agalakova quit her job as Europe correspondent while two journalists have left rival NTV. Lilia Gildeyeva had worked for the channel as a presenter since 2006 and Vadim Glusker had been at NTV for almost 30 years.

Rumours abound that journalists have also headed for the door at All-Russia state TV group VGTRK.
Journalist Roman Super said people were quitting its Vesti news stable en masse, although that has not been confirmed. However, renowned TV host Sergey Brilev quashed reports that he had resigned, pointing out he has been on a business trip for more than a week.

Maria Baronova is the highest-profile resignation at RT, formerly known as Russia Today. Former chief editor at RT, she told the BBC's Steve Rosenberg this month Mr Putin had already destroyed Russia's reputation and that the economy was dead too.

A number of other RT journalists have also resigned, including non-Russian journalists working for its language services.

Former London correspondent Shadia Edwards-Dashti announced her resignation on the day Russia invaded Ukraine without giving a reason. Moscow-based journalist Jonny Tickle quit on the same day "in light of recent events".

French RT presenter Frédéric Taddeï said he was leaving his show because France was "in open conflict" with Russia and he could not continue to host his programme Forbidden to Forbid "out of loyalty to my country".

Days later, the EU said it was banning all of RT's various outlets as well as those of fellow Kremlin outlet Sputnik for their "campaign of disinformation, information manipulation and distortion of facts". Russia's German-based state news agency Ruptly has also endured a spate of resignations, according to Reuters news agency.

Russia's non-Kremlin media have come under repeated attack for years, so many journalists who have worked under constant threat of losing their livelihoods at independent outlets will be unimpressed by the current crop of resignations. Some have been hit with the Soviet-era label of foreign agent.

Dozhd (TV Rain), which was forced off mainstream TV in 2014, has had to halt its online broadcasts because of the Ukraine invasion and a number of its journalists have fled Russia for their safety.

Radio Ekho Moskvy has also been taken of the air amid Russia's new legislation on so-called false information. BBC Russian is among a number of Western outlets that have been banned, while journalists working for Latvia-based Meduza were forced out of Russia.

It is not just journalists who have disappeared from state TV.

One of Russia's biggest talk show hosts, Ivan Urgant, has taken a break from his prime-time Evening Urgant show on Russia's second biggest channel, Channel One, the same station as Marina Ovsyannikova.

He reacted to the war by posting a black square on his Instagram account with the simple message: "Fear and pain. No War." He has since told his followers not to panic, and that he's taken a holiday and will be back soon.

Russia's number one celebrity couple Alla Pugacheva and Maxim Galkin are among a number of other showbiz figures who have also gone on holiday. Galkin said on Instagram: "There can be no justification for war! No War!"


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Biden speech tonight watch the first 10 seconds of each clip, and people are worried Putin has nukes!

President who?


Erm whats his name?



Who is ann?
 
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How accurate are they?


Ann is back,


Sign this legislay......
 
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Defence Secretary Ben Wallace told The Mail on Sunday that the Starstreak system (a shoulder-mounted missile that travels at more than three times the speed of sound to take down low-flying enemy jets) was ready to be used imminently

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I have three main memories of my visit to Ukraine in the 1990's. They are:
  1. The "going away" party when I left. My Class (six local lads and an interpreter) and I demolished 7 bottles of vodka (they just unscrewed the cap of the bottle and threw it in the bin) and about 24 bottles of beer. There were only eight of us remember - and I had to do a "Final Report" before I left the facility at 0600 the next morning; and to this day, I cannot recall what I wrote!
  2. The country is immense and from Kiev to Poltava took forever in the company car. On the way we passed a field of about 600 acres filled with tiny plants. I presume that the plants were beetroot, because of the Ukrainian love of the vegetable and because they were being "singled up" by a single woman. As a young lad I could manage about one acre a day "singling up" and even if the woman with the hoe could manage three acres a day, it would have taken her well past harvest time to finish. I reckon it illustrated the sheer persistence of the people!
  3. Finally, the local Vodka Factory in Poltava was celebrating 200 years of continuous production the month I was there. In the previous 200 years they had coped with (and subsequently got rid of) the Ottoman Empire, Napoleon's Invasion, Hitler's Invasion and the Russian invasion. When Russia started this war my first thought was "It won't go well for the Russians." and so far it hasn't! athumb.. athumb.. athumb.. athumb.. athumb..
 
Dutto said:
I have three main memories of my visit to Ukraine in the 1990's. They are:
  1. The "going away" party when I left. My Class (six local lads and an interpreter) and I demolished 7 bottles of vodka (they just unscrewed the cap of the bottle and threw it in the bin) and about 24 bottles of beer. There were only eight of us remember - and I had to do a "Final Report" before I left the facility at 0600 the next morning; and to this day, I cannot recall what I wrote!
  2. The country is immense and from Kiev to Poltava took forever in the company car. On the way we passed a field of about 600 acres filled with tiny plants. I presume that the plants were beetroot, because of the Ukrainian love of the vegetable and because they were being "singled up" by a single woman. As a young lad I could manage about one acre a day "singling up" and even if the woman with the hoe could manage three acres a day, it would have taken her well past harvest time to finish. I reckon it illustrated the sheer persistence of the people!
  3. Finally, the local Vodka Factory in Poltava was celebrating 200 years of continuous production the month I was there. In the previous 200 years they had coped with (and subsequently got rid of) the Ottoman Empire, Napoleon's Invasion, Hitler's Invasion and the Russian invasion. When Russia started this war my first thought was "It won't go well for the Russians." and so far it hasn't! athumb.. athumb.. athumb.. athumb.. athumb..
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Some good memories
 
I predicted very early in this thread that Russia knew they couldn't run the whole country so they will agree to split the Ukraine on condition they never join NATO he then gets to say he won and he can stop the fight and save the lives of tens of thousand of his soldiers which it would seem are nothing more than untrained cannon fodder.
 
Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv at the start of March, according to sources.

The Russian oligarch and at least two senior members of the Ukrainian delegation developed symptoms that included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands, sources familiar with the matter told the Wall Street Journal.

The Independent understands Mr Abramovich did suffer from suspected poisoning as reported, but that the incident has not discouraged him from focusing on mediating negotiations between Russia and Ukraine while he is docked in Turkey.

The Chelsea FC owner accepted a request by Ukraine at the end of February to help negotiate an end to Vladimir Putin’s invasion just days after it started. The Kremlin said last week that he played an early role in peace talks, but that the process was now in the hands of the two sides’ negotiating teams.

The sources told the Wall Street Journal they blamed the suspected poisoning attack on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Mr Abramovich and the Ukrainian negotiators, who include Crimean Tatar lawmaker Rustem Umerov, have since recovered and their lives are not in danger, according to the sources.

Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Mr. Abramovich, was not affected, they said. Mr Zelensky’s spokesman said he had no information about the suspected incident.

In response to the report, investigative news outlet Bellingcat said that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks on the night of 3 March experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of the victims was Mr Abramovich, it said on Twitter.

Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later on the night of 3 March and reportedly felt initial symptoms that did not abate until the morning.

On 4 March, the group of negotiators drove from the capital to Lviv on the way to Poland and then Turkey’s capital Istanbul, to continue informal negotiations with the Russian side, Bellingcat said.

Chemical weapons specialists told the outlet that the symptoms were most likely the result of poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon, with microwave irradiation another but less probable hypothesis.

The experts said the dosage and type of toxin used was likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage, and was probably intended to scare the victims.

A source toldThe Guardian that Mr Abramovich lost his sight for several hours before being treated in Turkey.

Mr Abramovich was asked by Ukraine last month to help mediate because of his background in Russia, where he amassed wealth in the 1990s period of post-communist privatisation.

Under Mr Putin, Mr Abramovich served as governor of the remote Arctic region of Chukotka in Russia’s Far East before buying Chelsea in 2003.

Earlier this month Mr Abramovich had all his assets frozen in the UK and EU, with the British government saying that he had maintained a close relationship with Mr Putin for decades.

Last week, Mr Abramovich flew from Istanbul to Moscow to meet the Russian president and deliver a handwritten note from Mr Zelensky outlining the terms Ukraine would consider agreeing to in order to end the month-long war, according to The Times.

Putin’s response was reportedly: ‘Tell him I will thrash them’.

Mr Zelensky has urged US president Joe Biden to not sanction Mr Abramovich because Kyiv believes he might be a crucial go-between with Moscow, a Ukrainian official told the Wall Street Journal last week.

Two superyachts belonging to Mr Abramovich have docked in Turkey in the last week, with Ankara saying it opposes sanctions imposed by its Nato allies on Russian oligarchs.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ssia-abramovich-poisoning-peace-b2045780.html
 
Chippy_Tea said:
I predicted very early in this thread that Russia knew they couldn't run the whole country
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Disagree with this.
Putin assumed the Ukrainian miltary would crumble. He planed on a quick regime change. The initial attempts in Kyiv with the use of special forces and unsupported armour highlights this.

The Ukrainian miltary defeated the Russian's first military camapign in this war.

Chippy_Tea said:
they will agree to split the Ukraine on condition they never join NATO
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Considering the amount of civilian casualties so far I can't see how the Ukrainians would agree to a partition of their country. Even areas of Ukraine with high ethnic Russian populations are protesting Putins agression.

Unless there is some kind of palace coup, this war will drag on. The negotiations are just there to play for time and to maintain his image with the Russian public.

As an aside, partitioning countries never really goes that well. Think Ireland, India & Palestine.
 
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