Angram beer pull advice

[Witespune]

Hey guys!

So I just bought an Angram hand pull for my brews. What is the easiest way (and hopefully the most cost effective) to get it up and running?
Many thanks!!

 

[phettebs]

Is it brand new?

Since I live in the US, I'm by no means an expert! However, I did have a "retired" pub hand pull shipped over to me. We don't typically have them here so I had no idea where to start. My understanding was that it had been sitting in a cellar unused for some time. I figured out how to take it all apart and when I got to the gaskets/seals, they were nasty and smelly. I tried cleaning and boiling and nothing worked. I found a place in the UK that would ship me a replacement seal kit. I swapped everything out, hooked it up to a polypin, and I was serving draught bitters at home!

I got a lot of help from the folks here on the forum back in the day but a polypin seemed to be the easiest way to go. I attached it to my kegerator and put the poly inside. It worked great for me. I've heard of folks using cornies but I never tried that. Best of luck with it!

 

[MickDundee]

I have a Pint365 which I use with cornies. I’ve only had it since April so I’m not an expert, but my set up is as follows:

I have a demand valve to stop the beer being pushed through when the pump is off.

I have a Kegland online regulator with the smallest gauge which I have set at 2PSI to keep the beer fresh and maintain a real ale style level of carbonation.

It’s a fairly basic set up, I believe @peebee is your man if you want more a more authentic/scientific set up.

 

[RoomWithABrew]

@Witespune Have a look at this thread I started good info in here.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/beer-engine-strip-down-advice.691756/#post-9095533
also another here page 68 some food for thought.

https://aussiehomebrewer.com/thread...f-dedicated-thread.93045/page-68#post-1568572
and here

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/cask-ale-using-fermzilla-and-polypin.692847/#post-9114591
Many ways to skin a cat but the closer you get to cask conditioning and then spiling with it open to the air the more authentic your ale will be. It really is a completely different drink served the cask way.

I can notice the difference between the beer if transferred from keg to mini keg or bag, I do also have a demand valve that allows serving from a keg with some psi behind it but it isn't really the same.

Then the debate starts sparkler or southern pour?

 

[Consett26]

I have a Kegland online regulator with the smallest gauge which I have set at 2PSI to keep the beer fresh and maintain a real ale style level of carbonation.

I started out the same way with my Pint365 but it got to be too much of a faff on and I could never get the pressure right. Now I just open the safety valve on the keg while I'm pouring a beer. Its much simpler and more closely replicates what happens with a cask in a pub.

 

[peebee]

...I believe @peebee is your man if you want more a more authentic/scientific set up.

Thank you very much. I'm not sure about "authentic", it's what I do to emulate authenticity because to be authentic will mean drinking naff beer most of the time. And I do remember "science", it was on my school timetables 45-or-so years ago.

And that passes for modesty in my book. I'm actually resoundingly brilliant with pin sharp intelle... (Someone shut him up! His "treatise" with a section on hand pumps is linked in his signature below).

 

[RoomWithABrew]

@peebee
Insight as well as modesty about your brewing and drinking skills!!

I did find your discussion extremely thorough and wish I'd found it when I got my beer engine, many current regulators ( kegland mkIV for example ) are quite happy with beer gas so if you can get your CO2 cylinder filled with beer gas the regulator works fine. But I don't like the beers served with nitro " it's the same as a beer engine " , it is definitely the best way to drink a naff beer. Any ways that I can " make " some spiles for my small cask plan, they are impossible to get down here and wondered whether a dowel is too hard to be trimmed down, they are fairly soft wood the soft spiles.

 

[Witespune]

@Witespune Have a look at this thread I started good info in here.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/beer-engine-strip-down-advice.691756/#post-9095533
also another here page 68 some food for thought.

https://aussiehomebrewer.com/thread...f-dedicated-thread.93045/page-68#post-1568572
and here

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/cask-ale-using-fermzilla-and-polypin.692847/#post-9114591
Many ways to skin a cat but the closer you get to cask conditioning and then spiling with it open to the air the more authentic your ale will be. It really is a completely different drink served the cask way.

I can notice the difference between the beer if transferred from keg to mini keg or bag, I do also have a demand valve that allows serving from a keg with some psi behind it but it isn't really the same.

Then the debate starts sparkler or southern pour?

Thank you!

 

[RoomWithABrew]

@Witespune
No problem. If you find anything useful on your workings please post some photos and / or text about it in the thread so we build up our knowledge.

 

[hughjamton]

@peebee
Insight as well as modesty about your brewing and drinking skills!!

I did find your discussion extremely thorough and wish I'd found it when I got my beer engine, many current regulators ( kegland mkIV for example ) are quite happy with beer gas so if you can get your CO2 cylinder filled with beer gas the regulator works fine. But I don't like the beers served with nitro " it's the same as a beer engine " , it is definitely the best way to drink a naff beer. Any ways that I can " make " some spiles for my small cask plan, they are impossible to get down here and wondered whether a dowel is too hard to be trimmed down, they are fairly soft wood the soft spiles.

I think the splles are made from basket cane, the type of cane they make furniture from, or weave with.
It's got lots of hollow tubes in it's structure.

 

[RoomWithABrew]

@hughjamton
Thanks for that I'll keep my eyes peeled for something similar.