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If trump goes, it will be screaming and kicking, this could last weeks.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Speaker of the House ends up taking the seat temporarily. Trumpty will run this out as long as he can!
 
Different news desk call different numbers, 264 is called by associated press that has already called Arizona win for Biden - it has still many votes to count but they estimated that Trump will not be bale to pull ahead - I'm not so sure, as apparently there was batch of votes (120k) and 56% were for Trump - so maybe wrong assumption there. This is going to be very close call.
I think this is more than just Biden against Trump, it more like just vote against Trump for whoever, as long as he is out we are happy.
Biden already said he is more like care taker president, I think he will be just a figure head. Still exciting and nail biting
 
Biden already said he is more like care taker president, I think he will be just a figure head. Still exciting and nail biting
As a straight white man, with a fairly centrist political leaning (although the Americans are convinced he’s some kind of socialist or even a communist), he was the “safe” option to get the win against Trump

If you look at the major contenders for the Democrat nomination, there’s a major element of vote losses with all of them:
  • Sanders was too open to smears from the other side as a leftover from 2016, and too far left leaning to win over wavering voters
  • Buttigieg is openly gay which would lose them votes, also inexperienced in National politics
  • Harris is both black and female which would also lose them votes as main candidate
  • Gabbard was too young, too female and represents a state outwith the mainland US
  • Warren is too right-leaning
  • Bloomberg had been a member of the republicans in the early 00s so falls into the same category as Warren
 
As a straight white man, with a fairly centrist political leaning (although the Americans are convinced he’s some kind of socialist or even a communist), he was the “safe” option to get the win against Trump

If you look at the major contenders for the Democrat nomination, there’s a major element of vote losses with all of them:
  • Sanders was too open to smears from the other side as a leftover from 2016, and too far left leaning to win over wavering voters
  • Buttigieg is openly gay which would lose them votes, also inexperienced in National politics
  • Harris is both black and female which would also lose them votes as main candidate
  • Gabbard was too young, too female and represents a state outwith the mainland US
  • Warren is too right-leaning
  • Bloomberg had been a member of the republicans in the early 00s so falls into the same category as Warren
It's sad when you won't vote for a person based on their gender, skin colour or if that person is gay.
Crazy
 
A little bit of me wants to see Trump win.

The same bit of me that likes watching a fire, or knocking over a pile of blocks.

It would be interesting. If not awful...
 
It's real easy to armchair quarterback this corona virus thing.

Truth is, it's not in the presidents job description to fix everything. Per the constitution he's the chief executive and commander in chief of the armed forces, that's it.

Also, in New York, Mario Cuomo, Bill Deblasio, and even Nancy Pelosi were telling people to ignore the orange man and his scare tactics.They said to go out, get dinner, see a show, this is no worse than the flu. When Trump stopped travel from China all these liberals started screaming Trump's a racist, doesn't like yellow people.

Then they flipped and forgot everything they said and recommended and started blaming Trump.
You need to knock off the propaganda, buddy. 45* lied about the pandemic, leaders made decisions based on that. Yes, they did make some mistakes but that garbage you're spewing is straight from FOX/Breitbart/OANN etc.
One of the people you get "news" from got off a slander charge by having his OWN FOX lawyers argue that no reasonable person listens to him without a large degree of skepticism (Tucker Carlson). Carlson's head writer that got fired is a known racist scumbag.
The RWNJ stations are littered with sex offenders, just following the lead of the serial sex offender currently in the WH, I guess. OANN has a Russian working for them as well as the major state-run TV in Russia.
QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THAT INSANE LOSER IN THE WH--THE WH AND ADMINISTRATION BLEW IT ON THE PANDEMIC. THEY IGNORED IT, INTERFERED WITH A PROPER HANDLING, TRIED TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. LOOK AT OTHER COUNTRIES.
Note: this isn't necessarily directed at you but for people here who might think that garbage you're writing is true.
 
He treats allies like the UK like enemies

I don't think we are expecting *any* friendliness from a Biden / Harris presidency, to be honest. :laugh8: Quite the opposite, so no gain for us there. Not that who wins is really any if our business.


*Edit - I originally put Biden / Hunter, lol.
 
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You need to knock off the propaganda, buddy. 45* lied about the pandemic, leaders made decisions based on that. Yes, they did make some mistakes but that garbage you're spewing is straight from FOX/Breitbart/OANN etc.
One of the people you get "news" from got off a slander charge by having his OWN FOX lawyers argue that no reasonable person listens to him without a large degree of skepticism (Tucker Carlson). Carlson's head writer that got fired is a known racist scumbag.
The RWNJ stations are littered with sex offenders, just following the lead of the serial sex offender currently in the WH, I guess. OANN has a Russian working for them as well as the major state-run TV in Russia.
QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THAT INSANE LOSER IN THE WH--THE WH AND ADMINISTRATION BLEW IT ON THE PANDEMIC. THEY IGNORED IT, INTERFERED WITH A PROPER HANDLING, TRIED TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT. LOOK AT OTHER COUNTRIES.
Note: this isn't necessarily directed at you but for people here who might think that garbage you're writing is true.

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A lot of your posts are
I don't think we are expecting *any* friendliness from a Biden / Harris presidency, to be honest.
Repairing and strengthening relationships with allies seems to be the least complicated item to check off the To Do list. I would think the first thing that will be done is for the US to rejoin the World instead of this isolationist thing we have going on.
 
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