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hey guys,just read this on another forum/site and wondered if anyone on here goes about their brewing like this and if it produces a good ale:thumb:


What is No Sparge?
Before we jump into the no-sparge method, we need to briefly review fly sparging. A traditional fly sparge requires you to heat sparge water in a separate vessel to around 168F (75.6 C). Then this sparge water is sprinkled over the grain bed in the mash tun, often by a “fly arm” which distrubutes the water evenly. Simultaneously wort is drawn from the bottom of the grain bed through a screen of some kind and into the boiler. The flow of water must be managed to keep the grain bed flowing, and also the brewer must be careful not to “oversparge” by running too much water through the grain bed, which can lower the pH of the wort unacceptably and add an astringent tannin flavor to the finished beer.
In the no sparge, we skip adding sparge water entirely. Instead the total volume of water needed for mashing and boiling is added to the mash tun at the start of the mash, and simply drained from the mash tun into your boil pot once the mash is complete. It does require a larger mash tun (about double the size), since you need to be able to hold all of the grains, the water they absorb, plus the full volume needed for boiling. However you entirely eliminate the need for a hot liquor tun to heat sparge water. You simply mash with a lot more water, and then drain the wort out.
The Advantages of No Sparge Methods
No sparge has some advantages over a traditional fly sparge. First, you avoid having to separately heat sparge water up and also the need for a fly arm, since all of the water is already in the mash. Second, mashing at a high water to grain ratio can result in a more complete conversion and good attenuation – which is desirable for many beer styles. Third, since all of the water is in the mash tun already at a stable pH level due to buffering from the grains, you don’t run the risk of “oversparging” your mash and extracting excessive tannins. Finally, no sparge is simple – you just drain the wort into your boiler, taking care to do the usual “vourlof” step of recirculating the first few quarts of runoff.
No Sparge Water Volumes
No sparge temperature calculations can be done with any standard infusion calculator (software or online) – the only question being how much water you need to add up front? You should start with your required pre-boil volume which is how much water you need before boiling your wort. Then you need to add more water to compensate for grain absorption. Grain absorbs about 1 liter/kg (or 0.12 gallons/lb) of grain, so if you take your total grain bill in pounds or kg you can quickly estimate the extra water needed. Finally you need to account for any losses in the mash tun, such as wort trapped below the drain for your mash tun. Putting it all together in gallons we have:
Grain_absorption_gals = Total_Grain_Lbs * 0.12
Mash_water_needed_gals = Pre_boil_volume_gals + Grain_absorption_gals + Mash_tun_deadspace_gals
For metric, just substitute 1 liter/kg for the 0.12 value, and do the math in kilograms and liters.
Once we know the total mash water needed, we can use any infusion calculator (Tools->Infusion in BeerSmith) to get the strike water temperature needed.
No Sparge in BeerSmith
You can use any of the BIAB (Brew in a bag) mash profiles on a recipe to force BeerSmith into a full boil mash volume. Just select any BIAB mash profile as your all grain mash profile in BeerSmith 2. The only other caution is that you might want to go to Options->Advanced and change the BIAB Grain Absorption to be the same as the normal grain absorption (0.96). Normal BIAB brewing retains a bit less water in the grain, and making this adjustment will make the BIAB mash profiles match the no sparge method exactly.
 
I've had problems with sparging recently where it's been going waaaaaay too quickly and not rinsing off the sugars, so accidentally no sparging really. To counter that, I increased my grain bill by 500g in the last brew to compensate for the lack of effective sparging which is something you need to do if you don't sparge. As long as you increase the grains I don't see why the beer at the end would be much difference to if you'd sparged.
 
so after reading this have I got it right
I get a vessel say one of these that hold 32 litres and make into a mash box
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000TAOVY2/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
and by looking at a brew for 40 pints in the greg hughes home brew book it says 27 litres for the boil so I bring 27 litres up to the strike temperature for weight of grain say to 68C.(someone will have to educate me on strike temperatures) and dump the grains into it,mash for an hour,take out the first runnings..how much?and sprinkle it back over the grains then drain the wort off the grain to the boiling pot and with already having the 27 litres for the boil so no adding of any extra water
is that the basics of it?
 
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This is what I did for the mild I started about 4 weeks ago. I got 71% brewhouse efficiency, which was good compared to how I've been doing recently (as low as 60% for the higher gravity brews). I didn't mash with the whole amount though. I had a 2L of bottled water in the freezer, mashed with 2 litres less, then cut off the bottle and chucked in the 'ice cube' to cool to pitching temp quicker. Combined with using my casserole and kettle to heat the strike water, and doing a 45 minute mash and 45 minute boil, it meant that I could get the brew cooled and pitched less than three hours after starting. It made a very nice pint indeed. In fact, I can't stop drinking it and only have half left even though its only been 18 days in the bottle! I'll definitely be doing this process again, but it is limited to styles like the mild that have small-ish grain bills.
 
so after reading this have I got it right
I get a vessel say one of these that hold 32 litres and make into a mash box
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000TAOVY2/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20
and by looking at a brew for 40 pints in the greg hughes home brew book it says 27 litres for the boil so I bring 27 litres up to the strike temperature for weight of grain say to 68C.(someone will have to educate me on strike temperatures) and dump the grains into it,mash for an hour,take out the first runnings..how much?and sprinkle it back over the grains then drain the wort off the grain to the boiling pot and with already having the 27 litres for the boil so no adding of any extra water
is that the basics of it?

Close enought, but you would need more than the 27 liters, as you have to account for grain absorption, which is about 1liter per kilogram. So, if its a 4kg grain bill, you will need about 30 litres of water. That is pretty close to the 32 litre limit of your mash tun, and then there is the volume of the grain itself to account for so you'd want to scale down a little.
 
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Close enought, but you would need more than the 27 liters, as you have to account for grain absorption, which is about 1liter per kilogram. So, if its a 4kg grain bill, you will need about 30 litres of water. That is pretty close to the 32 litre limit of your mash tun, and then there is the volume of the grain itself to account for so you'd want to scale down a little.
So if the boil pot is graduated I can make up the loss in the boiling pot back up to 27 litres with tap water?
 
After reading your post I was wondering how it would be possible to accurately follow a recipe using this method. It would certainly make my brew day a little easier and quicker.
So after a bit of googling I found this : http://byo.com/malt/item/1375-skip-the-sparge .
Just need to get my head round the equations :-?
 
"True" BIAB is a no sparge method. I generally do a dunk sparge but I have done no sparge a couple of times.
 
The whole doubling the mash time would put me off. I would go with @DoctorMick 's method. Or I mash for 50 minutes drain off then add more water at 76c stir, leave for 15-20 minutes then drain off and boil.
I actually do this in a BIAB method but I've seen guys on youtube do this in a mash tun.
 
After reading your post I was wondering how it would be possible to accurately follow a recipe using this method. It would certainly make my brew day a little easier and quicker.
So after a bit of googling I found this : http://byo.com/malt/item/1375-skip-the-sparge .
Just need to get my head round the equations :-?

When you do get your head around it please educate me::thumb:
 
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